Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaguar stones


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Per the discussion here, there is no showing of notability for the subject of the article as written, nor does it appear that the subject can be made notable. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  13:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Jaguar stones

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delete, the "jaguar stones" as described here are not real, instead the description comes largely inspired from the book Middleworld, a work of juvenile fiction by J. & P. Voelkel (supposed to be the first of a trilogy). They have nothing to do with actual Maya artefacts or mythology&mdash;while there are of course various sculptures and other iconography depicting jaguars, "jaguar stones" per se is not a meaningful or encountered term in Maya archaeology. The "Indian legend" of Numi the black leopard is completely made up, originating it seems at some New Age gem seller's website but otherwise not to be found in any anthropological record or other WP:RS. The term "leopardskin jasper" appears to be used only within esoteric and crystal healing circles, for one of a myriad variety of rocks with alleged energies etc., and used loosely at that. As such I doubt it's worth an article on its own merits. There was recently a separate article on the book, The Jaguar Stones Trilogy, that just as soon was deleted (via PROD) as failing WP:BK notability. Nothing here or elsewhere I've seen indicates a reason to change that assessment. ps. The article was originally created to be about the book, it seems likely by someone with a connection to the book or its authors, but was changed when the article's validity was questioned. cjllw ʘ  TALK 07:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  —cjllw  ʘ  TALK 08:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Other than fictional works, there are no mentions of these on Google Books. I am indifferent to an article on the stories, but I don't believe the stones warrant their own article. Aiken &#9835; 09:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete and fast a mass of WP:OR, WP:MADEUP and stuff from a fiction book series. Simonm223 (talk) 15:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment and a WP:COATRACK for a non-notable children's book. Simonm223 (talk) 15:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Too much of a mess. Although grinding-stones in the shape of jaguars are sometimes referred to as jaguar stones, this article is not about them. Johnbod (talk) 15:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.