Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaka Železnikar


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The result was no consensus defaulting to Keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. In assessing this discussion I have discounted the last pro-keep comment as it has no basis in WP:PAG. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:19, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Jaka Železnikar

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Tagged for notability since 2017. A Slovene national whose Slovenian page is in similar vein to the English one. He is known for net art and Firefox addons. I translated the refs and googled him, they don't support GNG. Few edits since creation in 2005. Szzuk (talk) 19:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep the article is not in such great shape, it is true. However he is notable for having made a significant contribution to the field of early "net art" and computer-based art. There were not so many artists using the Internet at its beginning (Vuk Cosic, Olia Lialina, etc.), and he appears to have been a player in that early field. I can say this because I found enough sources that position him as one. The journal article with his name in the title points to this as well. Without speaking or understanding Slovenian, here is what I managed to find:
 * https://www.rtvslo.si/kultura/razstave/elektronska-eksperimentalna-literatura-opazena-na-twitterju/236771 Slovenian News coverage
 * Spanish Book mention
 * A half-page description of a piece he made, in "Theory Into Poetry: New Approaches to the Lyric“
 * A journal article: “Literary Aspects of the New Media Art Works by Jaka Železnikar and Srečo Dragan“
 * Brief mention in “New Literary Hybrids in the Age of Multimedia Expression: Crossing borders"
 * Included in the Italian book “REFF, RomaEuropa FakeFactory: la reinvenzione del reale attraverso pratiche…" ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've added eleven sources to the article and cleaned it up. In my reading it became clear that he is well-known in Slovenia but not so much outside of it. Well known anywhere is notable by our standards.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:05, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * comment I'm probably not going to vote on this, as I try to stay away from subjects who are too close to my own work. I will point out that amongst the artists own list of exhibitions it appears he lists Net_condition, which is a very important show and frankly could/should have its own wikipedia page (and one that has come to define the Net.Art cohort), but he is not amongst the list of artists on the ZKM site. He notes it as "TheLounge, NetShop" which was a lecture series as part of Net_condition  but again, he is not listed. He was active in the Net.Art scene, but his work has not been included in the exhibitions or histories of the movement. --Theredproject (talk) 06:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 11:48, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Thank you for your work in finding and listing sources, ThatMontrealIP. I would agree to your comment - unfortunately none of the sources you mention initially qualify. Any of my searches didn't turn up other sources either (but of course my Slovenian is a bit rusty;)). I think Theredproject said the rest there was to say... -- Ruhri Jörg  13:39, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, clearly established notability. Multiple sources he found qualify as RS, therefore meeting WP:GNG. — Yerpo Eh? 06:19, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep to demonstrate the global widespread of net art and to avoid anglocentrism. --Hladnikm (talk) 07:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


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