Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jakub Romanowski


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The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 02:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Jakub Romanowski

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Only reference is his website. This is a promotional piece for a non-notable martial artist. This was tagged by another editor for speedy delete but declined as some attempt to describe notability was made.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 09:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
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 *  Keep Delete He actually does have some coverage in Polish-language sources (two features in Cooltura magazine and one feature in Goniec Polski). The article can be sourced to the hard-copy. Kindzmarauli (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Switching to delete per below. Apparently the sources provided are not significant. Kindzmarauli (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be hard to see how he meets WP:MANOTE.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * He meets WP:GNG. Kindzmarauli (talk) 14:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think if you're relying on foreign language publications you need to provide a translation. Certainly the claims of being European champion and world runner-up should have sources in English.Mdtemp (talk) 18:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sources need not be in English, there is no policy or guideline that says that. English is preferred, obviously, but Polish is a very real language, spoken by millions of people, and is just as legitimate and trustworthy as English. Kindzmarauli (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sources don't have to be in English that is true - but it should (with English sources also) be sure to refer to what is claimed.  But that's stating the obvious.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Kindzmarauli, WP:NONENG says "if a dispute arises involving a citation to a non-English source, editors may request that a quotation of relevant portions of the original source be provided." No one is disputing that Polish is a real language, but we need to be able to verify that sources provide significant independent coverage.Mdtemp (talk) 19:29, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I have two main issues - his name does not come-up in any searches for karate champions either here (wikipedia) or elsewhere so I would at the very least want to know which tournament/organization and when. The second issue is the red flag that goes up whenever you have claims of special forces/elite combat.  Besides extraordinary claims needing extraordinary sources what we have is typical self-promotional material.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, the fact that his name doesn't pop up in Google searches for Karate champions is also a problem, but it wouldn't be the first time that has happened. I will try to find someone who understands Polish better than I do. Kindzmarauli (talk) 20:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Peter is right, we do need to see which titles and organizations the championships came from. Also, almost all the claims I've seen for training special forces have turned out to be bogus (or at least highly inflated).Mdtemp (talk) 19:29, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - sources are promotional non-independent pieces. I failed to independently verify claims about his glory among "elite forces". Also unclear what kind of champion he was: may be in some rare style with only 3 and half practicioners in whole Poland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staszek Lem (talk • contribs) 02:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neither Goniec Polski nor Cooltura are major publications, IMHO - they are niche (regional - Poles in the UK) ones. As such, I don't think they suffice to help this pass WP:GNG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * delete Right now he fails both WP:GNG and WP:MANOTE. Will reconsider if new and better sources are found.Mdtemp (talk) 18:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
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