Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jalalabad Cantonment Public School & College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. There is consensus that it needs to be cleaned up, but notability is not in question. (non-admin closure) Go   Phightins  !  15:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Jalalabad Cantonment Public School & College

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Before nominating, I tried my very best to find sources. However, a cursory search I performed yields nothing reliable... And thus I have to bring it here. It is supposedly one of the best schools in Bangladesh, at least per the page, but unreferenced peacock words do not establish notability. It fails the most basic standard... WP:GNG and also fails WP:ORG. I suppose the creator is a proud student of the school. Sorry, but I feel this should go. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 12:14, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up! You'll get almost nothing reliable about Bangladeshi (and Indian) schools and colleges in Google search. Same issues with researchers, scholars. Anyway, that is a educational institution of Bangladesh where the main language is Bengali and Bengali Google search shows the educational institution is notable. --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:24, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Understand, but regardless of its notability, this is still spam and spam should go. And possibly speedied. Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 12:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

i am the creator.why this page is spam for u?thanks for your comment — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditi Choudhury (talk • contribs) 12:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The way you write this is a mild example of spam. As mentioned in the Teahouse, please read WP:Your first article. And brush up on your English language skills please Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 12:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not spam really, the article needs to be Wikified. There are thousands of more articles in Wikipedia in similar or worse condition. They are clearly WP:NEWCOMER and don't know how Wikipedia works (see they have added the official website in reference section and not external link section). I can do the Wikify work after seeing this AFD discussion! You can help too! -Tito Dutta (talk) 12:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not biting the newbies, I am addressing what should be deleted. It is more than a matter of Wikifying. This, in my view, is blatant promotion written in a non-neutral way. The creator most likely is somebody affiliated with the school, (see his/her Contribs) which is clear conflict of interest. Its better to start from scratch (if it was notable) than to keep. And by the way, I fixed your typo. :) Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 12:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

it is really not a spam.if you were a bangladeshi u would have heard the name of this institution.and when we write in wikipedia anyone can edit it.so i may have write it wrong.but others can write it well Aditi Choudhury (talk) 12:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The content might not be spam, but the style of writing definitely is. Also, having heard the name don't make it notable and you need multiple third party and reliable sources to establish notability. Understand the rules before playing the game, have you heard? (And how would you know whether I'm Bangladeshi or not?) Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 12:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Calm down! I have posted a message at your talk page (since that is not the topic of the discussion), where I have tried to mention my opinions on the article. --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * {ec}} :: Oh come one! Everyone in Wikipedia writes or edits articles on the place (street city, country) they live or the school, college, university they attended. They are not writing article on them or their relatives or friends. That shouldn't be an issue(specially if it is a notable institution with thousands of students). But, yes, the article is written like a promotional content, that is an issue. But, I think this was not deliberate and "wikify" should be the answer here! --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, now we are getting somewhere. All thy spam removed. Good. I might even consider a withdrawal... Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 13:19, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * FYI, all the Bengali newspaper articles, (reliable source) I have found they have just mentioned like the school has again topped in this board exam or three or four students of this school have won this national talent hunt. I have added a Bengali newspaper article, that's has dedicated one or paragraphs in the article. There are few more similar article. But, I have not got any article where the school (or college) is the primary or only topic of discussion! BTWY, Google Books does not have any information on this school (because the school was established in 1999?)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

i am a ex student of this institute.now i read in a university.all bangladeshi people know anything which has cantonmnent in it, that's why i said u r not a Bangladesh institutes are really notable in edcation of bangladesh. u have to say what is wrong.the help section is very clumsy to find any information.belive it or not it took me 3 hours to know how to upload picturesAditi Choudhury (talk) 13:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

tito datta, i think u sent me a message.if u can edit it do it please.i wont edit anything in your work.but i can add new things,cann't i?Aditi Choudhury (talk) 13:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

every newspaper in bangladesh,thats a tough thing.every newspaper mainly highlite the result of dhaka in hsc,ssc,jsc,psc examinations.and u will see minimum one institute in those results have cantonment in its name.my institute is in sylhet.so you have to read the paper thoroughly to find the institutes which did top result in sylhet divison.this year our institution was second in hsc exam in sylhet board.there are also adamji cantonment public school & college ,ishphani cantonment public school & college etc in other divisons.Aditi Choudhury (talk) 13:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: it has some basic references establishing some fundamental level of WP:Verifiability. Some of the spam has been trimmed, and I've trimmed out some more WP:cruft (an encyclopedia reader doesn't care if a place has its own cafeteria and dorms or no, how big their computer lab is etc). Recognised/registered educational institutes above the elementary school level are de facto Notable by policy, aren't they? We've established this place exists, so it meets WP:N and WP:V. Just needs some watchlisting to make sure it doesn't accumulate spam. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

can anyone tell me if this pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murari_Chand_College can use hostel ,library why cant i?Aditi Choudhury (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I have added features & believe me the users who will read this article will only read that article to read those features.for u dorm,lad or other thing don't matter much but for those readers it matters.they visit the site to know about these features. this institute got a national award in 2004.problem is the verification.that time online service was not good but the institute got the prize for sure.every prospectus of jcpsc announce this.Aditi Choudhury (talk) 20:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - potential sources show compliance with WP:ORG. I have cleaned up the page so it is no longer promotional. TerriersFan (talk) 01:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep It's sad that an article needs to land on AFD for it to be brought up to halfway good quality, but anyway. As it stands now, the school seems to meet WP:GNG at least. § FreeRangeFrog croak 22:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Verified secondary school, which should be kept for all the usual reasons. -- Necrothesp (talk) 00:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per meeting WP:GNG.  Sourcing ranking in top 5 schools (in country I believe) along with Sylhet Government Pilot High School along with others, is far more than enough.--Milowent • hasspoken  13:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Secondary schools and public colleges are generally regarded as notable if they can be verified through reliable sources. TBr  and  ley  05:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Nominator is biased against Bangladesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.14.242.35 (talk) 11:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's bad faith, and FYI, I love Bangladesh. Not Cheers. Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 15:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.