Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jalsha Movies Production


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The links provided by do not in fact lead to any coverage about this movie production company whatsoever, and since the existence of the company is in doubt and cannot be immediately verified, I see no need to retain a redirect. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Jalsha Movies Production

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I find no sources at all that indicate that this company even exists, much less that it is notable. I've gone through the sources for the movies that they have allegedly been involved in, and not found a shred of evidence. In addition, it was created by an editor who has since been blocked as a sock, so it could perhaps be speedied on those grounds (the group of socks seems to be respondible for creating several articles about made-up movies). bonadea contributions talk 16:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:21, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * WP:INDAFD: Jalsha Movies Star, Jalsha Movies Jalsha Movies Production
 * WP:INDAFD: Jalsha Movies Star, Jalsha Movies Jalsha Movies Production
 * WP:INDAFD: Jalsha Movies Star, Jalsha Movies Jalsha Movies Production


 * Woah ... was there any real WP:BEFORE done prior to you declaring this topic as non-existent or unsourcable??? There are a number of articles in The Economic Times and Times of India... and others which appear to speak about it in some detail. I am not going to address notability nor your allegation about an alleged pack of socks or meats, but simply stating that the coverage you could said did not exist find actually does exist. And as it's editor was not on block or ban when creating this article, it was not created to circumvent a block ot ban... so WP:G5 speedy is inappropriate.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 01:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Of course I looked for sources, with various spellings because that is often a concern with names in languages that don't use Latin script. I'm not sure if my search skills are really bad, or what my problem is, but everything I could find was about the major Bengali language TV channel Jalsha Movies, and that applies to the search results you link to above as well. The google search string you linked to only tells me "No results found for "Jalsha Movies Production". Results for Jalsha Movies Production (without quotes)", and at least the first several pages of search results are news about the TV channel. Most of the Economic Times and Times of India search results that I get don't mention the word "Jalsha" at all, and those that do talk about the TV channel. The same applies to search hits in The Hindu. (When I look at the list of search hits at Economic Times almost every one of them is about one US movie or another, which indicates that it's unlikely that the article would constitute significant coverage about a Bengali production company, and in fact, following the links shows that "Jalsha Movies Production" is never mentioned at all.) If you could point me to some articles about the movie production company rather than the TV channel, I would be very much obliged, because frankly, I cannot find them by searching and I would love to know how to improve my search skills!


 * I did not in fact suggest a G5 deletion, I wouldn't have started the AfD if I had. My "allegation about an alleged pack of socks or meats" was based on the fact that the article was created by an editor who was subsequently blocked as a sockpuppet, one of a group of such socks, which had made a habit of creating articles about nonexistent films. (And the article was created a couple of months after the master was blocked, so I'm not quite sure what you mean - it was definitely created by a sock in violation of a block. I still think an AfD is a good idea because other editors have been involved in the article since, and if the company does exist, and is notable, I'd rather there was an article about it.) --bonadea contributions talk 09:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I should perhaps have mentioned the existence of the TV channel in my nomination - sometimes it's easy to overlook things that seem obvious to ourselves, but aren't obvious to other people. My apologies for that. --bonadea contributions talk 09:24, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * No problem. Jalsha Movies Production was created in October 2013 as a simple redirect to Dev (actor) and editor changed the redirect later that same day as more fitting to STAR India's Jalsha Movies. It was in December 2013 that unsourced content began being added. There was information in it at that time that, even in lacking notability for a separate article, could have led to enough results to merit a return of the redirect to Dev (actor) or Jalsha Movies... an alternative that could have been done without bringing this to AFD. Tell ya what... after this is likely deleted, and since I am a non-involved, non-sock, I'll go ahead and recreate the redirect and then WP:PROTECT it to prevent from unnecessary expansion.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 09:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 08:07, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and WP:PROTECT. Protection requested per Michael Schmidt's suggestion. But delete rather than redirect, as I found no reliable sourcing to indicate existence, and I don't want WP to be used to give creedence to nonsense, even if only in the form of a redirect. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 12:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


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