Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jam Mashooq Ali


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The result was nomination withdrawn as a stronger notability claim has been found than was present in the article at the time of nomination. Bearcat (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Jam Mashooq Ali

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Biography of a politician, which vaguely waves its hand in the direction of potentially valid notability claims under WP:NPOL but fails to substantiate or properly source them. It infoboxes him for a royal title which it completely fails to verify that he ever really held -- and then the body text asserts that he's merely a descendant of the former ruling dynasty of his region several centuries ago, which (a) does not necessarily make him the holder of an actual royal title, and (b) is completely unsupported by any of the article's actual sources. Then it asserts that he was a federal minister, but fails to explain or source what cabinet position he ever held or when -- and the sources do the same, using the words "federal minister" but then failing to substantiate what ministerial role he ever held or when. And otherwise, the article just claims that he was an advisor to a prime minister and that he was the son of a provincial chief minister, neither of which are notability claims at all -- and all of this is sourced to three very short and unsubstantive blurbs announcing his death, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever shown of any significant GNG-building coverage about his work. As I'm not an expert in Pakistani topics, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with more expertise can fix it -- but as it stands, the potentially notable stuff here isn't properly verified and the verifiable stuff isn't notable at all, so this can't be kept without significant improvement. Bearcat (talk) 20:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: Passes WP:NPOL, although it took me time to find. This source states that he was an MPA (like a US state legislator) in Singh, which confers NPOL. Curbon7 (talk) 21:54, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Curbon7 – he's presumptively notable under WP:NPOL as a state-level legislator. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:09, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep passes NPOL, held a cabinet level position with status as Federal Minister as advisor to the PM for the Indus River System Authority.


 * Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 12:21, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * keep — as per WP:POLITICIAN. I've added refs from official government websites and reliable papers. He was member of Sindh Assembly (1988), member of National Assembly(1990, 1993 and 1997) and advisor to PM Nawaz Sharif and PM Shahid Khaqan Abbasi with status of Federal Minister. Please have a look on this diff . ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 14:33, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep He was elected to the National Assembly of Pakistan in 1990, 1993 and 1997 elections. Before that, he was a member of the Provincial Assembly of Sindh from 1988 to 1990. Passes WP:NPOL. Added 5 more categories to the article, removed unsourced content referring to his connection being a local royalty. Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for saving this, all. I'm withdrawing this accordingly. Bearcat (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)


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