Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamal Sims


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The result was 'keep. Geschichte (talk) 05:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Jamal Sims

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Article was deprodded. I proded it because it was one sentence long and as been said before on articles about people like ambassadors, ambassadors are not inherently notable. IMHO, if an ambassador is not inherently notable, than a choreographer is less notable. Nothing in the article, which has been slightly expanded, tells me why this person is wiki worthy. Meaning, why he is different from any of hundreds of other dancers or choreographers. Oh, and the original editor’s comment that his IMDB page should be sufficient as to notability is just plain silly. IMDB can be falsified. ThurstonMitchell (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Entertainment-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  14:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Dance-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  14:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  14:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration.  Glee anon 22:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Easily meets GNG, noms asserting that choreographers are somehow less notable than other professionals is shortsighted at best. Even a quick search brings up numerous reliable sources discussing the subject and his work in depth. AfD is not cleanup, Wp:DINC.  Glee anon 22:55, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Instinct Magazine called the subject "world renowned" and "no doubt one of the biggest choreographers of our time." Billboard covered his directorial debut. Variety stated "...Jamal Sims is one of a handful of choreographers who’ve pushed the boundaries of dance in film, TV and onstage." He appeared in Michael Jackson's Remember the Time video at 17, which Root stated was followed by choreographing 2011's Footloose, Step Up, Hannah Montana: The Movie and more. Queerty stated "Jamal Sims has a long and prestigious career as a choreographer and dancer, having choreographed for Madonna, Toni Braxton, Jennifer Lopez, *NSYNC and the Spice Girls, among many other musical acts." There's a ton of reliable sources out there; a WP:BEFORE should be done on every deletion nom. --Kbabej (talk) 23:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kbabej. The lack of WP:BEFORE here is a bit concerning; I mentioned in my deprod edit summary that plenty of sourcing exists on Google, and even the existing sourcing contains info that establishes notability. I'd also like to note that the nominator prodded this article just 51 minutes (!) after it was created; even now, it's barely existed for a day. This article needs to be expanded, not deleted. Armadillo  pteryx  10:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above (disclaimer: stub creator). I never suggested his IMDb demonstrates notability or should even be used as as source, but I do think the contents of his IMDb entry should be transferred over to Wikipedia appropriately. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


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