Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Cowley


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The result was   keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

James Cowley

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British Army officer who is not notable Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. The subject appears to be a recipient of the Distinguished Conduct Medal, which may or may not indicate notability. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:56, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 20:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete - subject appears to lack "signficant coverage" in reliable sources and is therefore likely non-notable under the WP:GNG. Anotherclown (talk) 08:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Wifione  Message 18:23, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep deceased person has been awarded with Distinguished Conduct Medal and was known for his activities in world war II. Due to unavailability of references somehow i managed to add 1 reference that might support article and would clear notability guidelines. Dr meetsingh  Talk  19:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Dr meetsingh  Talk  16:02, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Dr meetsingh  Talk  16:02, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * Delete. Recipients of single second-level decorations are not considered automatically notable and Cowley was a relatively junior officer. The reference from the Daily Telegraph is actually just an announcement of death; had it been an actual obituary I would change my opinion. The other two sources are just mentions of the man's name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Was this the same guy? The article mentions him active in the Middle East, but not there specifically.  How notable are these awards he has won?  Would he get anything other than local newspaper coverage for winning them?   D r e a m Focus  17:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No. The DCM is a second-level gallantry award, comparable to the DSO or CGC. High, but not automatically notable enough for an article (although winning a bar probably would be). The OBE is a fourth-level service award often awarded to mid-ranking civil servants and senior military officers below colonel rank, for example. Again, one is not automatically notable for having been awarded it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable war hero also honoured for his services after the war. I have added another citation. Warden (talk) 17:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Good find. Both of the writers of that book are notable for their work, and I have added links to their Wikipedia articles.   D r e a m Focus  22:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Being mentioned in passing in a book does not make one notable, however notable the authors! -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * A passing mention is one that is tangential to the main topic. That is not the case here as the source in this case covers the history of the subject's regiment and details a notable exploit of his, which furthered the regiment's cause.  It is therefore not passing.  Warden (talk) 18:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep He was mentioned in a book by a notable historian, his accomplishments something worth recording for history, plus all the notable awards he has won.  D r e a m Focus  22:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment, I also found this passing mention, for what it is worth. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Very passing! -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. It would be nice to find something really substantial. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment It would be helpful if this biographical article gave some context for the action which led to his medal. From reading Coldstream Guards I see this engagement occured immediately before Operation Market Garden, but I can't tell whether it was in response to a German counterattack -- which would strongly support his notability -- or simply part of the forward advance which followed D-Day -- which in itself would not. -- llywrch (talk) 23:32, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep He won the Distinguished Conduct Medal, a second level military decoration. He was leader of a company in the Coldstream Guards during WWII and later Camp Commandant for a Brigade of the same. He reached the rank of Major before retirement and was later appointed a Military Knight of Windsor. Not to mention the other stuff later. Silver  seren C 23:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
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