Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Ede (Composer)


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The result was speedy delete. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

James Ede (Composer)

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WP:NOTABILITY. A composition student, shows no sign of meeting WP:NMUSIC. Editors have challenged CSD and deleted PROD claiming that who he studies under makes him notable, but of course notability is not inherited in that way. Nat Gertler (talk) 14:27, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability not demonstrated in article. Absence of ghits. asnac (talk) 15:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination - no significant coverage. I believe there's some meat or sockpuppeting going on there as well. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Daniel: Please look at the references on the article with regard to meeting notability, in particular the Experimental Music Catalogue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Letin (talk • contribs)
 * You are referring I think to this ref? But there is no mention of a "James Ede" at that page, nor as near I can tell any links that lead anywhere where he might be mentioned. Herostratus (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Well here's the thing. Of course the person is not notable by our normal standards. He's nineteen. This is a good age to be in some ways, but not usually a correlate to notability in serious music unless you're Mozart. More importantly, no one has written anything about this person, according to Google. There is an article on a James Ede, a cricketeer. There is a James Ede with the delightful handle of "Darts Whore", a James Ede who is a political activist, a James Ede who deals in antiquities, a person named James Ede-Golightly, a James Ede who apparently enjoys ingesting unusual animals, a James Ede who works in films, and several other James Edes. But none of these are our James Ede. The only information I can find on our James Ede is his own website. This is not a good sign.
 * On the other hand, he seems somewhat more accomplished then perhaps some other teenagers, and, you know, by deleting these articles we are not being welcoming to new contributors, which we are supposed to be doing. So maybe we need to be more flexible about all this. But given the current state of our standards, I think it's safe to say that there needs to be something on this fellow beyond his own website. So delete. Herostratus (talk) 17:38, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete A7 Obviously not notable, and the article doesn't actually assert any importance.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  18:32, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment:Thank you for your balanced, well thought through response Herostratus. Glad to hear your constructive response. After reading all this I reluctantly agree that the article doesn't meet the standards of wikipedia and should be deleted. I would personally be more flexible if this were my website, but at the end of the day, it's not, so I will conform to the standards of its owners. Delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Letin (talk • contribs) 18:43, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Speedy Delete A7 - there was a speedy deletion template on the page but someone removed it without explaining why. This person is, to my belief, un-notable and there is a lack of proof of his notability in the article. Maybe when he becomes more well known there can be an article about him. -- andy4789 ★ ·  (talk?   contribs?)  MerryXmas! 23:03, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


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