Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Grant (publicist)


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The result was   delete. Cerebellum (talk) 07:29, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

James Grant (publicist)

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This is an CV, not a biographical article. Looks to be designed to mention as many famous names as possible to hide the real person. Notability unclear. The Banner talk 20:11, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - This guy has quite a history, not just as a publicist, his recent career, but as a celebrity journalist for People Magazine, Life Magazine, Entertainment Weekly, LA Times, by lines any one of which most journalists would love to promote. Enough that there was a 2011 book written about him, some of it sourced from this wikipedia article.  This article is well sourced, though many sources refer to print publications.  I have yet to bop over to the local library to verify these, but I have already added a few sources that back up statements made here.  I assume their veracity.  The sources in this article, though they were masked by brackets, are high quality WP:RS.  I've gone in to remove the brackets to reveal the sources better.  Not only has he written for sources, there are several profile articles about him.  We have an ongoing issue with the category of publicist.  Someone with that title is immediately suspect by the deletion crowd, and (full disclosure) I have tangled with this NOM before because he is one of the worst practitioners of the art of deleting content from wikipedia.  It is the job of a publicist to get their client's name in the news, so one would expect the publicist would also act to get their own name in the news.  All that said, this guy has done that and we have sources of that coverage here.  It is a CV, but he has a notable CV  Add to that James Grant is an incredibly common name and thus hard to google. Trackinfo (talk) 00:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have already noted that you are following me around to throw with personal attacks instead of serious arguments. Start assuming Good Faith instead of keeping whining about a series of AfDs that you did not like. The Banner talk 19:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 16:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Comment: This article was previously James Grant (journalist), deleted last year, though with hardly a resounding consensus (AFD). I don't know if the content is sufficiently changed to warrant a G4, though the Copyright bot flagged it as matching a WP mirror of the old article: . Crow  Caw  22:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 14:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Observations and question. We read above that there is enough material about him -- Enough that there was a 2011 book written about him, some of it sourced from this wikipedia article. This comes with a convenient link. Google says of this book (loosely defined): Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online. Sounds like a nonbook. It's put out by "Fec Publishing"; ergo, it's definitely a non-book. &para; There's nothing damning about this: through no fault of their own, indisputably noteworthy people have their Wikipedia articles scraped by these outfits for sale to the unwary. But the existence of this "book" indicates no noteworthiness whatever. &para; We read that As an entertainment commentator, Grant has been interviewed by The New York Times. Well, kind of. Here's what the article says: "It's difficult just to drop everything," said James Grant, a writer and producer in Hollywood. "The business of the day must go on. I do a lot of work when Jose Eber is cutting my hair. I do phone work and review files. Once, I had both of my assistants working there." That's it. That's the extent of the "interview". &para; There is this in Forbes. Anything else that's more than a mere fleeting mention? -- Hoary (talk) 09:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - completely lacking in any substantive reliable sources about the subject. Fails WP:BLP. Bearian (talk) 20:03, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
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