Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Harris (author/musician)


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The result was Delete. No opposition or changes in two weeks. czar ⨹   23:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

James Harris (author/musician)

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Recreated BLP - no reliable sources to establish notability, and possibly none to be found. —Swpbtalk 14:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


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I will add them. Please don't delete until I do. I think being on a major record label, touring for 16 years, being on a hit album, and being an author is notable. Will add supporting references today. JoeBeertap (talk) 04:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The article will not be deleted today. AfD discussions typically run at least seven days. Removing the discussion notice on the article is NEVER appropriate and will get you blocked, for good reason. We can't rely on your promise to fix the article as reason to keep it. —Swpbtalk 14:33, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Added significant additional references and information as requested. Thank you for allowing me to further update the article. If there are any other concerns please let me know and I'll address them. I spent significant time in the New York music scene and am volunteering my time to add details of the New York music scene in the late '80s that is noticeably missing in Wikipedia. Thanks again. JoeBeertap (talk) 04:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Delete - no mainstream references, just reviews of their work. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:12, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * If Billboard isn't a mainstream reference, and it should be, then what do you define a mainstream reference to be? Happy to add a few. JoeBeertap (talk) 04:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * "Dirty Looks achieved success on the Billboard 200 chart" .. you're giving evidence that the band was on the Billboard 200. There are no references in reputable journals/newspapers/whatever that the band member is of significance.  Note: James Harris is one of 60-odd people who was a member of the band (apparently the only band member that has an own article) - in the case of James Harris 2-3 years out of 18 years of active existence of the band, and that band, not the member had a mention in a billboard list (I can not access billboard from here - is that mention actually at the same time that James Harris was active?).  Now tell me if that is even worth a significant mention in the page of a band member.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 10:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Apparently the band thinks so. There is a page devoted exclusively to him on their website. I'll work on adding references from "reputable journals/newspapers/whatever" on him. By your definition, what is reputable and what is not reputable? Thanks for the help. JoeBeertap (talk) 15:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "Apparently the band thinks so." - I forgot to mention that the reference had to be independent of the source - You've got thát right for Billboard at least. With reputable I mean that the source should not be an independent blog with no fact checking, or an independent forum post - Anything from the abovementioned 'newspapers' search?  (adapeted newspapers search on the name only - does not seem to give anything that belongs to the person that is the subject of this discussion).  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 07:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 01:20, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I see no significant coverage of this person in independent, reliable sources, or any other indications of notability as either a musician or as an author. A two year stint as drummer in a heavy metal band known for its "revolving door" membership is unpersuasive. A profile on the band's page is not independent, and the assortment of low quality references now in the article do not convince me of notability. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:56, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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