Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Horley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus. The article will be Kept. After being re-listed twice to try to come to a clear consensus we have not. Further discussion on the articles context should take place on it's talk page. (non-admin closure) Tofutwitch11 - Chat - How'd I do?    20:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

James Horley

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Article on a purported founder of several companies. Has some claims to notability, thus listed here and not speedied. Google has nothing pertinent for "James Horley Wenden corporation" so it may well be a hoax, even if not a hoax the person is not likely to pass WP:BIO} Travelbird (talk) 10:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Unreferenced BLP, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources, fails WP:BIO. Top Jim (talk) 11:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  -- The-Pope (talk) 14:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Week keep - only if reliable refs can be found. He seems to also be known as Denis Horley and may be the same person who competed in the Australian touring car seasons in the 80s, and has invented a safety fence and in-car telemetry - it isn't mentioned in the article, but the same editor who created the article also wikilinked the Horley in the telemetry back to this James Horley - but that is also not referenced there either. I've found some non-reliable sources online, but maybe someone out there has an offline ref?  If he's just the engineer, then I don't see enough notability.  I have asked at the Australian motorsport project.The-Pope (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Have added a couple of references and edited the article to include telemetry and 'Air fence Safety systems' Mrx1015 (talk) 03:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC) Just to clarify James Horley and James (Dennis) Horley are the same person. He did race in the Australian touring car championship in the 80s. I will be adding data about his racing life soon. I also have a newspaper article and a few other references about the same. I will put them up in a day or two. Mrx1015 (talk) 05:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Added Motor Racing history with links to other wikipedia pages, such as race results. Also added a newspaper clipping about an accident. Is the article better now?Mrx1015 (talk) 04:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * weak Keep Its hard to judge notability  when the article is very spammy, and if kept, this will have to be fixed. I am uncertain whether he is notable as a civil engineer--it depends on the significance of his membership in the Royal Institute of Engineers & the importance of his company. (Australia) As a specialist engineer for motor sport, it needs evidence that his barrier system or his telemetry system is notable  As a racer, I think that competing in the Southeast Asian Championship is notable, if it is a major International competition. The references, however, are inadequate to prove anything at all, except that the deleted version of the newspaper clipping proves he did participate in the race reported--if we knew where it came from.      DGG ( talk ) 01:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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