Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James McGowan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Johnleemk | Talk 07:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

James McGowan

 * Person is non-notable, not everyone who presumes to start a "ministry" is notable for that reason.
 * The person has a limited publication history. Not everyone who publishes a book is notable.
 * Membership in a theological society is not a criteria for notability.
 * Not everyone who graduates from Louisiana Baptist University is notable for that reason.
 * The person is an "education pastor" at a church. Not everyone who serves in that capacity is notable.
 * Attempt to include article in the Wikipedia article base is POV driven.
 * The aggregate of reasons of inclusion into the Wikipedia article base does not give weight to any claim to notability. WarriorScribe 17:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete, per above. WarriorScribe 18:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, very minor christian minister with unnotable and insufficient service and publication record. 65.245.103.190 20:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. McGowan is a pastor, author, and professor. --Jason Gastrich 05:15, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * But why is he notable? David D. (Talk) 06:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Interestingly enough, Gastrich would rather whine about my "back-handedly" thanking someone for their vote (the "thanks" was genuine, in fact, and unlike Gastrich, I'm not out shopping for "votes," so his comment was not only juvenile, but disingenuous) than provide any rationalé for McGowan's notability. - WarriorScribe 17:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. McGowan has liberty and freedom of speech under the constitution to speak on or add onto any discussion that he chooses to as a citzen of The United States. Deleting this entry would be a violation of his constitutional rights)--Michaelwmoss 06:15, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: to date this user has three edits (all on this page). He also misses the whole point of wikipedia. David D. (Talk) 06:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Does this count as a legal threat? Please say it counts as a legal threat. --Malthusian (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure sounds close to a legal threat, and certainly it is pretty stupid. The first amendment really doesn't apply here, as we are not the government.  Maybe we need to point this user in the right direction, he sounds like a 12 year old kid.  Brokenfrog


 * Strong Delete bush leage minister not note worthy


 * Strong keep. McGowan is a notable figure. Plus, other Wiki people with far fewer credentials are kept. --207.200.116.73 06:18, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * why is he notable? Do you have some examples of people with fewer credentials that survived an AfD? David D. (Talk) 06:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I think he's too busy recruiting to give you an answer. - WarriorScribe 21:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong delete, nothing extraordinary here - HBA
 * Delete Fails biography notability criteria.  Oh no  itsJamie  06:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails biography notability criteria. David D. (Talk) 06:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, as nominated. - MBlair
 * Delete as nominated. This James McGowan looks a lot more notable.--SarekOfVulcan 06:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails biography notability criteria.
 * Delete. Ugh, another one. Fails WP:BIO. --Malthusian (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Mark K. Bilbo 20:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Between the book and the ministry is probably known well beyond his own congregation. California 12 13:57 January 17 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain that, when we want to engage in an evaluation of notability, we can't deal in "probably." Apparently Wikipedia does have standards.  Do you have evidence that "between the book and the ministry" McGowan is "known well beyond his own congregation?"  What is "known well?"  Is it enough to merit an encyclopedia article and, if so, why?  That's part of the point, I think.  Thanks for your vote.  - WarriorScribe 22:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It's really not your place to (back-handedly) thank anyone for their vote. Even though you nominated this entry for deletion, this isn't your entry or your web site. It belongs to Wikipedia. --Jason Gastrich 08:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It's really unfortunate (and probably no small irritation) for Gastrich, but I can thank anyone that I want (there was no presumption that the entry is mine or that the web site is mine). Of course, every time he wants to snipe, whimper, and whine like this, it's just one more piece of ammuntion. - WarriorScribe 17:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong keep He is a good and notable person.--God&#39;s child 05:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: to date this user has six edits two on AfD's that Jason Gastrich voted keep. David D. (Talk) 05:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Add it to the list of sock puppets. Category:Wikipedia:Suspected_sockpuppets_of_Jason_Gastrich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.73 (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not User:God's child. To assert such a thing is absurd. --Jason Gastrich 08:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Given the number of known and suspected Gastrich sock puppets, I don't think it's absurd, at all. - WarriorScribe 18:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:BIO. FCYTravis 07:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - being a prof does not mean you are notable. --Pierremenard 11:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. A.J.A. 16:59, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete this article was created by Jason Gastrich to promote his school as a mainstream institution. This is only one of around 10 articles he created promoting his religion/degree/school. See List_of_Louisiana_Baptist_University_people. --Q — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.73 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete as per nom.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  01:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Guettarda 03:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delele--nixie 04:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete along with the rest. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] AfD? 11:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * keep (weak) He is an author, but this needs to be merged with something more notable perhaps.
 * Delete He just doesn't have the notability. If this wasn't such a controversial issue the article would be deleted without a second thought. --kingboyk 23:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Hall Monitor 23:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.