Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James McKeown (politician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. per WP:POLITICIAN and WP:ONEEVENT. It is possible that this person will become notable in the future, at which time the article can be recreated, or undeletion could be requested at WP:DRV Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 00:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

James McKeown (politician)

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Non notable local councillor who fails WP:POLITICIAN. The only press coverage of him is very local, relating to some minor controversy over his Facebook page when elected and this can be discounted under WP:ONEEVENT. Valenciano (talk) 14:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I creator of this politician's page on Wikipedia would urge the removal for the nomination for deletion log.My reasons for this being he is unique in his role as the only Sinn Fein politician on Larne Borough Council andthe Facebook controversy was unheard of in Northern Irish politics.DColt (talk) 20:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd strongly urge you to read both WP:POLITICIAN and WP:ONEEVENT which I've already linked above. Being the only councillor from party X on small local council Y is definitely not grounds for notability and neither is a very minor controversy. Valenciano (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I disagree.The council has its own page on Wikipedia,some other councillors on the very same council have entries on Wikipedia.Having this page on Wikipedia improves local interest and understanding of the council.DColt (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Your disagreement has no basis in Wikipedia policy. WP:POLITICIAN says: "Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature". The only other current or former members of Larne council that I´m aware of who have articles are Jack McKee, John Turnley, Danny O'Connor (politician), Roy Beggs and Oliver McMullan, two of which I created, so I was sure that they would be notable. All of those have been elected to the Northern Ireland assembly at one time or another. An exception is Bobby McKee which you created, though he at least has some degree of press coverage as a former mayor. McKeown doesn´t fit into any of those categories and arguments like "Having this page on Wikipedia improves local interest and understanding of the council" are specifically discouraged per WP:USEFUL. Valenciano (talk) 13:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Yaloe one event plus elected plus only sinn fein —Preceding undated comment added 03:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC).


 * Three arguments, let´s take them in turn.
 * 1. One event. I´m afraid you´ve misread WP:ONEEVENT as it says people known for only one event generally don´t qualify for articles.
 * 2. Elected, see WP:POLITICIAN: "3.Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability" that clearly applies here.
 * 3. Only Sinn Fein councillor. As I´ve said above "being the only councillor from party X on small local council Y is definitely not grounds for notability" quite the opposite in fact, since this would imply that if more Sinn Fein councillors were elected, he wouldn´t be notable then. However, notability is not temporary so clearly that can´t be the case. Valenciano (talk) 13:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:53, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom: he fails WP:POLITICIAN, WP:ONEEVENT, and WP:GNG. Possibly redirect to Larne Borough Council? - Jorgath (talk) 02:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Looking at previous election results its very likely there will only be one Sinn Fein member of Larne Borough Council DColt (talk) 21:02, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You've already voted keep above in your 24 February post. You don't get to vote twice. I repeat: being the only local councillor of party X on a local council of 31,000 inhabitants isn't grounds for notability per WP:NOTTEMP and WP:CRYSTAL. Reliable sources would be needed and it's clear from searching for them that he's barely mentioned in his local area let alone outside it, therefore fails both WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. Valenciano (talk) 21:46, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
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