Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Michalos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

James Michalos

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Non-notable per WP:BAND, WP:WEB and WP:BIO, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources, zero Google News hits for "James Michalos", "Plastic Snow" or "Rock n Rolling Snowman". If the song actually does well in the charts, then that might become notable enough for its own article. Proposed deletion removed without explanation by WP:Single purpose account. Invitrovanitas (talk) 10:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:31, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Invitrovanitas (talk) 10:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  —Invitrovanitas (talk) 10:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Userfy. I don't understand how this has been rated as 50/1 by Ladbrokes when it has attracted zero coverage in GNews, but if someone thinks it's got a shot at no. 1, then there's a reasonable chance they'll make the Top 40. WP:CRYSTAL says we don't have articles based on speculation, but there's no harm keeping the article in userspace should the single get somewhere. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In response to speculation point, have added past success in other industries, notably success in theatre that has already happened and demonstrates Mr Michalos' notability, with the speculative element re potential success reduced to one final paragraph that will undoubtably need editing one way or another later this month. News coverage for the song has been mainly radio so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CityLawyer (talk • contribs) 08:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * His career in theatre may count towards notability with or without this single, but you're going about it the wrong way. You have to demonstrate that he has received significant coverage in independent reliable third-party sources. Simply listing previous productions he's been involved in isn't enough. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 08:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Googled and did find online coverage. Article about it here http://www.entsweb.co.uk/ TEACHER’S ROCKING SNOWMAN SONG IS THE BEST BET FOR CHRISTMAS NUMBER ONE Ladbrokes offers 50-1 on song recorded for just £100 reaching the top spot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.66.162 (talk) 14:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Entsweb.co.uk is a WP:SELFPUBLISHed site, and is therefore not a WP:Reliable source. Invitrovanitas (talk) 14:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The song is listed in Yahoos Top 10 Christmas Contenders list
 * http://new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hot_new_tunes/3180/christmas-chart-contenders/;_ylt=AmX4Qp6tc4WCob1p6EGF97QqFCYv?page=3#comments —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.66.162 (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And featured in the Telegraph
 * http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/8202014/Teachers-snowman-song-is-Christmas-number-one-contender.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.66.162 (talk) 11:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- -- Cirt (talk) 16:19, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - far from a "contender for Christmas number 1", the song has in fact missed the top 100 completely and in the absence of exceptional coverage is therefore not notable. I have no idea what the people who thought this had a genuine shot at Christmas number 1 were smoking..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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