Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Morton (baker)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 00:25, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

James Morton (baker)

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Created by (possibly) someone who may have been the article subject himself or related to this person. Gained notoriety for appearing on The Great British Bake Off (series 3). Sure, he wrote cookbooks, and he reappeared once in a GBBO special, but do they make this person notable outside the series? I doubt that his (non-notable) medical career makes him meet the WP:GNG guideline or makes WP:BLP1E inapplicable. Matter was previously discussed in one past merger discussion and one discussion after merger/redirection was reverted. Regardless of notability, I'm not confident that the standalone article can hold on its own any longer. Should be (re-)redirected to List of The Great British Bake Off finalists (series 1–7), whose content I derived took from the article with some improvements. George Ho (talk) 15:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Television,  and Medicine. George Ho (talk) 15:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. BLP1E is only applicable when all three of its conditions are satisfied:
 * Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.
 * The person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual.
 * The event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented.
 * I don't think this subject meets any of these conditions, let alone all three. pburka (talk) 16:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * How about WP:BIO1E then? George Ho (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's an even less restrictive guideline. Which do you consider to be the 1E: his first GBBO, his second GBBO, or his career as an author? pburka (talk) 18:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * His GBBO debut, i.e. the third series, which aired in the US as the fifth season on PBS. His GBBO reappearance hasn't made much of an impact, and his career as a cookbook author is to me just resume-building. George Ho (talk) 21:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I would suggest not deleting, still an active public person, author of 8 books. Previous reliable sources deleted from article. Simply needs updating. 150.143.105.147 (talk) 16:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Scotland.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:48, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * What's your stance on this article so far? --George Ho (talk) 23:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't have one. pburka (talk) 00:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What about my answer to your 1E question then? George Ho (talk) 04:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I still don't think that BLP1E is applicable, since the subject had a substantial and well documented role in GBBO, and isn't a low-profile individual (he's a published author). Again, I have no position on the subject's notability, except that BLP1E isn't applicable. Any arguments to delete this page on those grounds are invalid. pburka (talk) 22:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, a prolific and award winning author, a newspaper columnist, his television appearances, his brewing career, etc., seems to pass muster (and GNG). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, Subject looks notable and renowned to me. There appears to be quality relevant sources online about him. Meets the GNG requirements. Mevoelo (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * keep per above two editors--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:02, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - Would seem to have achieved notability as an author in addition to his TV appearances. Dunarc (talk) 23:47, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * George Ho, did you WP:MERGE content from James Morton (baker) to another page? If so, please add   to Talk:James Morton (baker).  Once you copy content from a page, we can't delete the original article for license/copyright reasons.  (We could redirect the original article, however.)  WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I really wish. I just derived content months before the bold redirect by another editor: ; . George Ho (talk) 06:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If your derivation constitutes a Derivative work, then we can't delete the source article.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:04, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.