Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Parkes (rugby player)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

James Parkes (rugby player)
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An obscure rugby player, whose claim to fame is being brought out of retirement to sit on the bench as a substitute. See the article for yourself. How it can become anything more than a stub is unclear. I originally had my David S. Painter nominated for speedy deletion, so how this rugby player can escape deletion is a definite outrage! The only reference is a profile on his club's site. "James Parkes has been viewed 57 times in the last 30 days"; unsurprisingly, often it isn't view at all. Another gripe is that it interferes with James Parkes (clergyman), whose work is cited by people like Hannah Arendt (see the sourcing of The Origins of Totalitarianism), and whose article's title ought to be minus the parenthetic clergyman, in my humble opinion. Until just now, James Parkes was the article of the rugby player! I wanted to move James Parkes (clergyman) to just James Parkes, but can't, of course, since the page already existed. So I turned James Parkes into a disambiguation page as a stop-gap until, hopefully, this rugby player (and also the disambiguation page) can be deleted and I can move James Parkes (clergyman) to James Parkes. Urgh, hope that all makes sense. This is my first time of nominating for deletion, so sorry if I've made any mistakes in following protocol! LudicrousTripe (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:59, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Rugby union-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Easily meets notability guidelines having played professionally for Saracens F.C., Gloucester Rugby and Leeds Carnegie. Article does need proper sourcing though. noq (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - the source states "James did however 10 appearances for the team in the Guinness Premiership" (sic) so he easily meets WP:NRU with that apart from qualifying appearances for other teams. I am not struck by creating a disamb page for just two people, better to have the main use at James Parks with a hatnote. The place to go to sort out who should have that honour is WP:RM. The Whispering Wind (talk) 21:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I nominated Articles for deletion/James Parkes (rugby player)), that was linked on this page for a while, for CSD:R3 deletion. The Whispering Wind (talk) 22:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment – OK, I can see the writing on the wall, what with the old WP:___s being thrown at me! So I choose to mention this, a move request that inexplicitly yields to the WP:___s burying my request here, but which incorporates the suggestion about getting rid of the James Parkes disambig page and asks for it to be filled instead by a move from James Parkes (clergyman). James Parkes would then be the historian/clergyman's page, with a note at the top directing users to James Parkes (rugby player). James Parkes (clergyman) would obviously then redirect to James Parkes. Well, let's see what comes of my move request! LudicrousTripe (talk) 22:33, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - What a terrible AfD. The player is clearly notable, played professional rugby at the top level in England. Covered in mutiple RS. It looks like this AfD was initiated because the nominator doesn't like the name of the article! If you want a page moved, go to Requested moves in the future rather than wasting people's time with an AfD. This isn't the way to deal with article names, disambig's, or establishing the primary article for a particular name. -- Shudde  talk 03:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
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