Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James R Payton Jr.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The only delete comments were before StAnselm's and E.M. Gregory's improvements and despite two relistings, there were no more sound delete !votes (only such !vote seems to have misread the references).  So Why  20:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

James R Payton Jr.

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No secondary sources, seems to fail WP:PROF Dbrodbeck (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG. South Nashua (talk) 14:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete a history professor who does not meet our inclusion criteria for academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:54, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. StAnselm (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. StAnselm (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak delete. A GS h-index of 5 is not enough for WP:Prof, even for theology. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:09, 2 April 2017 (UTC).
 * Weak keep: His book won a Word Guild prize in 2014, though this is not mentioned in the article. Is that enough for WP:ANYBIO #1? It appears to be the Canadian equivalent of the Gold Medallion Book Award, and that has been enough to establish notability in the past (e.g. Bodie and Brock Thoene). StAnselm (talk) 12:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * keep -- InterVarsity is an important Evangelical Christian Press, one that does not publish rubbish. If this were being presented before any books were published, I would probably be voting to delete.  Evangelicals tend to ignore the Early Fathers, so that a book from that viewpoint on one of them is itself important.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:55, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * weak keep I was able to improve the page slightly with material found in a scholarly review of one of his books. E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:32, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 08:21, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the first references work and the last one is a book written by Payton himself. --Rogerx2 (talk) 09:43, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have now added the reference I mentioned above. StAnselm (talk) 03:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * And no, the last one is not written by him - it's an independent review of a book he wrote. StAnselm (talk) 03:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. The books are widely held, including by non-religious university libraries. I take that to indicate he may be an influential scholar in the field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 02:02, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


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