Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Renner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Weak keep.  Cbrown1023   talk   00:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

James Renner

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nn journalist Bat ears 22:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Concur, delete. Nonexistent refs, NN even per creator's own (unsubstantiated) descrip. Bullzeye Complaint Dept./Contribs) 23:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Google news only picking up articles by him, not about him Corpx 02:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per Corpx. Article needs cites to verify the claims. Bearian 22:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP - Notable, Notable Notable. Renner is well-known in the city (one of the towns 30 interesting persons), he's directed the [[Steven King¨¨ short story film All That You Love Will Be Carried Away which was honored as an official choice of the [[Montreal World Film Festival]].  The film was part of Steven King's Dollar Baby program for upcoming directors.  Renner organized and ran the first two Dollar Baby Film Festivals, which were held in Steven King's hometown in Maine.  He's also acted in film and TV (notably in the TV series Project Greenlight founded by Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and worked in film production, as well as writing screenplays.  Besides this, as we all know, he's a respected journalist, and he wrote a book about one of the most well-known child murders in America.  Even though it was in the late 1980s, the case is still being written about, and Renner is a huge celebrity in the Midwest of the U.S.  He probably didn't make a big deal about it, because people in the midwest are humble.  He's all over the TV, even recently, about this case.  He's no normal reporter, though he's a good one.  You can see him on the Cleveland Fox station, as well as all over YouTube.  I can add some of that material tommorrow.  I already sourced it.  I also have other concerns that Renner is one of several being here unfairly targeted by VO.  I've put those concerns here.  Along with a debate between myself and Mr. Bat ears.  BlueSapphires 13:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK - I've created a Workshop space where I tossed most of the articles I found - totally unformatted. There is also an online Fox interview of Renner, and two other newstation interviews, with him as the Amby M. expert.  You can either wait til Monday (when I can format them and rewrite) or format what I put in there and find the videos yourselves - ta! BlueSapphires 11:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Journalist is well noted in his field, has been the director of a film written by a well known author, is a notable author himself, and has won various awards.  This article needs to be worked on, not deleted.  Also, it should be taken into account that a lack of google hits does not certify non-notability.  The circumstances of this AfD, per BlueSapphires, also disturb me a little bit.  CaveatLectorTalk 18:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep meets the inclusion and notability criteria. -Nard 22:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per above, meets WP:BIO as the subject is evidently notable within his field. RFerreira 02:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Renner is notable enough to meet inclusion criteria. As has been said, Google searches are not the last word in notability. The article could do with some fixing and perhaps a better assertion of notability by including more reliable sources, but that should have warranted a simple tag, not a full-on AfD. An attempt to fix an article should be made before considering deletion. --clpo13(talk) 03:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, and rewrite Notable enough in my opinion, but the article is poorly put together and its links have to be updated. PKT 16:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


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