Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Valles (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Courcelles 08:50, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

James Valles
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Article about a local reporter who fails WP:CREATIVE. Includes no proper sources: they're all primary (e.g. YouTube videos of him reporting) or unreliable (e.g. his bio on http://jamesvalles.com/). I can still find no independent coverage of this person. Probably self promotion. First discussion closed without consensus. Pburka (talk) 19:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC) DeleteDoes not appear to satisfy WP:BIO. Needs more reliable and independent sources with significant coverage. Edison (talk) 20:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Entry seems to include some proper sources, not all primary, including links to direct station sites and stories, including an article published on the Columbus Blog, which has a Traffic Rank in the US: 208,504.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.170.185.1 (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Strongly Keep If you look at all of his work, including all of the local station websites, Youtube air checks of stories, articles, it is clear that this not self promotion. Pburka cites his official web site as an unreliable source, but there is no bio there. It would not be fair to remove this journalist as there are others who have Wiki profiles. I looked up the market for which this reporter worked and it covers more than 200,000 households, which is pretty significant. This profile has existed since 2008, almost four years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.145.92 (talk) 06:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right. I mentioned the wrong website. His bio is on his company's website: http://primomultimedia.com/main/index.php/site/directors which is clearly not a reliable source since it is controlled by the subject. Note that this anonymous editor has edited articles related to James Valles extensively and nearly exclusively. Pburka (talk) 12:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There are various other sources presented. I am not quite sure why all of your edits focus on removing this entry so badly and why your necessarily picking on my contribution to Wikipedia. Maybe you should focus on the dozen of other entries with similar references that have not been questioned. This entry has existed for nearly four years and there are various sites local stations, and videos that support this entertainer is legit. Not sure what other proof you are looking for. (talk) 05:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The evidence of notability we require is significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. For example, articles about the subject in magazines or newspapers would support inclusion. None of the sources included in the article pass this test. They demonstrate that the subject exists, but not that he is considered notable. If you can identify some other journalists which also fail the Wikipedia standards for notability I'd be happy to nominate them, too. I mentioned your edit history because it suggests that you may be connected to the subject. Pburka (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So, are you encouraging Wiki users not edit or use the site. I am not clear on what you are trying to say. I am merely contributing to the site and adding my opinion. I am not directly connected to the subject and its kind of rude of you to try to use me to sway the vote in your favor. As a matter of fact, I've noticed this is the second time, you've put this entry up for deletion after the previous attempt. If you look at the entries history, it has existed for nearly four years -- was verified before -- so why are you trying to delete it now. There are a number of internet personalities and journalists who have not garnered "significant" coverage, but yet have entries. And, most of the statements in those entries are referenced by videos and official sites. (talk) 08:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)




 * Delete. The article is basically spam, and the only item to be found online about him is from the Columbus Blog; even if we were to take that as a reliable source, it isn't significant coverage as to meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG - frankie (talk) 02:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:SPAM Stuartyeates (talk) 05:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
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