Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamiatul Qasim Darul Uloom Al-Islamiah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Jamiatul Qasim Darul Uloom Al-Islamiah

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Non notable Islamist seminary in India. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 11:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions.  ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁  (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 11:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁  (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 11:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:07, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The subject is notable. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 13:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep poor referencing. —  Hammad     (Talk!)   14:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Any educational institution (which includes seminaries) with 4500 students is clearly notable. -- llywrch (talk) 22:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Is the complete list of AMU-recognized schools eligible to create or keep an article on English Wikipedia? ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁  (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 00:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG lacks independent  sources  and even lacks even a single indepth reference other than University propectus which merely state that this is one of the Madarassa recognised for  admission to certain courses in AMU and Jamia Millia  .Please note in India with over a Billion people there are hundreds of schools which have over 1000 students and operate in two shifts .Now a student out of the Millions studying in any school in India which is affliated to the Central Board of Secondary Education or any of Indian State Board and passing 12th standard is eligible  for admission in any college and University not merely AMU and Jamia Millia .If this logic is extended then every school  affilated is notable .Mere affilation and eligibility is not notable.Apart from this in a search could find a  piece in the Swarajya which is not WP:RS and blacklisted here hence cannot add the link.
 * Urdu language sources
 * REF 1 in article جامعۃ القاسم دارالعلوم الاسلامیہ نئے تعلیمی سال کا آغاز


 * Translation of REF 1 Is about this Instition states when its academic year states
 * REF 5 in article بخشتے ہوئے جامعہ ملیہ اسلامیہ میں شعبہ اسلامیات کے صدر پروفیسر اقتدار احمد خان ،ودیگر (تصویر:پرویز صدیقی


 * Translation of REF 5 Very brief States Shams Tabriz Qasami, Editor of Millat Times honoured someone in a event organised by this institution note the source is Millat Times fails WP:GNG
 * REF 6 in article:نتیش نے کمار نے مسلم فوجی کی شہادت کو نظر انداز کردیا:تیجسوی یادو


 * Translation of REF 6 about a different topic Translation states Tejashwi Yadav is accusing  Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar of ignoring the the martyrdom of a Muslim soldier. Fails WP:GNG
 * REF 7 in article:ایران و سعودی عرب دونوں اسلام کی مشترکہ قیادت کریں:پروفیسراختر الواسع Please see translation.


 * Translation of REF 7 Different Topic Article is about Prof Akhtar of Maulana Azad University Jodhpur and Jamia Millia Islamia saying Iran and Saudi Arabia should jointly lead Islam Only one line about the subject, Sheikh Haram Madni Syed Hamid bin Akram al-Bukhari about  praying in the in Jamaat-ul-Qasim Dar-ul-Ulum-ul-Islamia fails WP:GNG
 * Out of all the references only one is about the subject the first one which merely states briefly when the academic year starts clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a difference between a school and madrassa if we look at a broad ground. The almiyyah degree of some madrassas is not even valid to take admission in any graduation course of any University, leave the Jamia or Aligarh University. The madrassa's whose almiyyah degrees are anyway accepted in Universities are notable as compared to the madrassa's whose degree is not valid for admission to any University. Anyways, I have added a number of citations and references to the article, and make it somehow look notable. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 23:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 02:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I am persuaded by the 'Keepers' arguments above. Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have added more references proving that the seminary is notable, and its founder is notable for his services, for this he was honorary awarded with the doctorate degree.(1 and 2) He has been in Aligarh Muslim University news, more than that, the seminary is regarded as one of the notable seminaries of Bihar as per one reference. Seminary acts as a center for National Council for Promotion of Urdu Language and I have referenced it from Urdu council official website. Notable scholars like Ahmad Bukhari, Muhammad Salim Qasmi etc have been connected as per few references I have added on the article. The seminary has published a number of publications including the one about notable hadith scholar Muhammad Younus Jaunpuri. The subject anyway passes WP:GNG.-- Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a book which was released in the Ansari Auditorium of Jamia Millia Islamia on the 30 year history of Jamiatul Qasim. Moreover, Monday, April 16, 2018, Inquilab, New Delhi,  page no. 8 has a detailed data about Jamiatul Qasim, titled Jamiatul Qasim Mashaheer Ki Nazar Mai. It is enough for WP:GNG. Jamiatul Qasim was patronized by notable scholars like Muhammad Salim Qasmi --Finding more resources Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 00:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep enough sources for demonstrating the notability has been provided above and in the article. This looks to me as if the user starting the discussion did not do enough searching. This unnecessary discussion is a big waste of everyone's time. Cedix (talk) 11:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep, having added the relevant references to the article, I stand clear at my point. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 22:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep enough citations available--Irshadpp (talk) 06:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No policy based reason to keep this article.It is clear WP:PNSD.The article lacks even one reliable ,independent source.One needs to be Don Quixote to think otherwise.82.43.211.113 (talk) 14:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment a gentle reminder that you !voted keep already, best to strike one of your !votes. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 19:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


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