Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamil Zainasheff


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The result was   delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Jamil Zainasheff

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fails WP:BIO and WP:AUTHOR. yes he wrote a book on brewing. that in itself doesn't guarantee notability. this is merely confirmed mainly in one line mentions. . LibStar (talk) 05:45, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. I don't think this person quite meets the criteria for WP:N. Several accolades and authoring two books is not enough. --Hmich176 (talk) 11:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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1. Mr. Zainasheff's book, Brewing Classic Styles, is the de facto "bible" for brewing the beer styles used in American brewing competitions, and by the American Homebrewers Association. These styles are the industry standard for classifying and describing American beer. 2. His work as an educator, journalist  and judge has been instrumental in the growth of home brewing in the United States, and in the explosion of craft beer brewing (more breweries in the United States than any time since Prohibition). Craft beer is part of the larger movement toward local and artisanal food production. See also Slow Food. 3. His yeast pitching rate calculator at mrmalty.com is a standard reference in the home brewing community. I suppose sources are needed for all of the above? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.21.208 (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2012 (UTC)  — 69.231.21.208 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 
 * I believe this article should not be deleted. Three reasons why Zainasheff is a notable figure in the beer and food world:
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 * Weak delete I found some mentions of him at Google News Archive, and it does appear he is thought well of in the brewing world, but these are passing mentions, not the significant coverage from multiple reliable sources that is needed to meet the notability criteria here. Google Books finds two books he co-authored, but no reviews or other indications of their significance. If sources can be found for the assertions by User:69.231.21.208, I will gladly reconsider. (BTW I note that "Brewing Classic Styles" was written in 2007 so it can't have been influential in developing the craft brewing movement; and according to the introduction to that book, it provides "a specific recipe for every style in the Beer Judge Certification Program Style Guidelines;" in other words the book is based on the guidelines, not the other way around.) --MelanieN (talk) 04:31, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. I went looking again for book reviews but couldn't find any. This is a discussion board, not a Reliable Source, but I notice that these home brewing afficianados discuss Brewing Classic Styles as simply one among many beer brewing books - not exactly their "bible". --MelanieN (talk) 18:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


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