Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamilah Kolocotronis


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The result was   no consensus. Borderline case, there's no strong agreement on her notability at this time. -Scottywong | communicate _ 17:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Jamilah Kolocotronis

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Not particularly notable fiction writer, no significant coverage in reliable sources or news outlets, only some specialist websites and blogs. Athenean (talk) 23:40, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a meaningless contribution to AFD. There are essentially two outcomes that can result from this AFD discussion: keep or delete.  Which are you opposing and why? Uncle G (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Many Muslim sites mention her ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.148.27.81 (talk)
 * You're not properly signed in. Sign in. Mention? Not document, with enough information from which a biographical encyclopaedia article can be written? If there are places where such in depth biographical documentation, from identifiable people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy, can be found, please point to a couple of them. Uncle G (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strange -- his (un-commented !vote) was delete and when you asked for a reason he gave "Many Muslim sites mention her" as a reason to discount her notability rather than to assert it. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 18:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

 Brooke Benoit (talk) Hello, I'm the author of this article. I hope that by being an editor of SISTERS Magazine (the only international English-language publication exclusively for Muslim women) I would be considered an identifiable people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy. Interestingly I recently read that wikipedia is hoping to encourage and increase articles by and about women and minorities, yet this conversation seems very unsupporting of that. The citations for this article are not from blogs or specialist websites, they are from THE preeminent Muslim-based publications in the US. Azizah is an award winning magazine whose founding was encouraged by Gloria Steinem. Islamic Horizons is the longest continually running Muslim Magazine in the US. So am I correct in understanding that you would like to see other reliable contributors to this piece as well as other worthy citations? ~Brooke
 * Keep There is apparently coverage in print publications Azizah, Islamic Horizons, and Islamic Ink, though none of those are actually online. I found one article about her: Pamela H. Sacks: "Keeping the faith; Muslim writer reaches out to young men of Islam through novel". TELEGRAM & GAZETTE (Massachusetts), August 23, 2005, Pg. C1.  She is mentioned in a few places on Google Books too (half a page in Peter Caram, The 1993 World Trade Centre Bombing: Foresight and Warning, Janus, 2001, p39; some mentions in Carol L. Anway, Carol Anderson Anway, Daughters of another path: experiences of American women choosing Islam, Yawna Publications, 1996; a paragraph in David K. Linnan, Enemy Combatants, Terrorism, and Armed Conflict Law: A Guide to the Issues; a brief mention in Mathias Rohe, Das islamische Recht: Geschichte und Gegenwart, p 491.) --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:07, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong delete: Kolocotronis is clearly not notable as she satisfies none of the criteria laid out by Wikipedia:ACADEMIC:
 * 1) There is no evidence that the subject has made any significant impact upon his discipline.
 * 2) There is no evidence that the subject has received a prestigious award at either the national or the international levels.
 * 3) There is no evidence that he has been elected to any prestigious scholarly societies.
 * 4) This person clearly has not made any impact upon higher education.
 * 5) The subject does not hold any distinguished titles or academic positions.
 * 6) This subject has not held a "a major highest-level elected or appointed academic post" at any universty.
 * 7) The subject clearly has not had any impact, let alone a substantial impact, outside of academia.
 * 8) There is no evidence that the subject has been the editor of any journal.
 * Her main work, Islamic jihād: an historical perspective, is, despite having had twenty years to accumulate citations, cited a mere six times by Google Scholar which is practically nothing. Kolocotronis made no impact in her field, so she merits no bio in WP. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Appears to be far from reaching wp:n.Alexikoua (talk) 20:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Borderline, but I give it the benefit of the doubt in order to correct our cultural bias  DGG ( talk ) 01:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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