Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Fran


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The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:45, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Jan Fran

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The only possibly reliable source is the rather promotional article in the Sydney Morning Herald, and this is insufficient for notability  DGG ( talk ) 05:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Subject is not notable per se and article is an orphan. Some quick searching turns up gobs of social media presence of hers, but nothing that seems to qualify as RS. Agricola44 (talk) 14:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, just noting that has added more info/sources to the article since the start of this afd (still may not enough for Fran to meet notability though, ie. WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE), also, is a "redirect" to The Feed (Australian TV series) out of the question (she co-presented for 6 years) as a wikireader term? Coolabahapple (talk) 11:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - based on sources added by RebeccaGreen seems to meet GNG now. Bookscale (talk) 10:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - has been expanded --Spacepine (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I have to say I'm really not sure. The Sydney Morning Herald has two articles, both about several people, so while they are about Fran (and also have some quotes from her), they are not only about her. I would not consider New Idea reliable, although maybe I'm mixing it up with other women's magazines which plaster their covers with stories about the Queen abdicating and Wills/Kate, Harry/Meghan and Fred/Mary divorcing. Perhaps it's reliable enough for coverage about more ordinary people. However, it's an interview with Fran and her husband, so is not a completely secondary source. The Mumbrella, Age and News.com sources are all very short, just one or two sentences about her and more about the topic highlighted by the article titles. I was interested to find the Daily Sabah source, as it's media from another country reporting about a media person from Australia. It includes her tweets, with commentary on them. I'm hesitating over Weak Keep or Weak Delete. If this article is deleted, then it shouldn't affect any future recreation if more is published about her. RebeccaGreen (talk) 00:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - just having a job as a journalist or presenter does not establish notability, she hasn't actually done anything notable other than appear on TV - interviews are not reliable sources WP:INTERVIEW - does not meet WP:ANYBIO, therefore, delete, or Redirect to The Feed (Australian TV series) - Epinoia (talk) 02:59, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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