Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Mertl


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The result was   keep. Courcelles 04:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Jan Mertl

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despite pretty high career best ranking he does not pass WP Notability for a tennis player (no Challenger titles or main draw matches played on the ATP (World) Tour or in Davis Cup Mayumashu (talk) 22:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets guidelines for notability by participating in the highest level of his sport. Edward321 (talk) 00:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:09, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 *  Delete  - For "highest level of his sport", tennis gets messy as there are multiple levels of professional tours. WP:NTENNIS represents the the consensus for cut-off with respect to what competing at the highest level means.  Mertl has not made an appearance in the main draw of any Grand Slam event. This summary shows that he has competed in the qualifiers and got as far as the third round in the 2008 Australian Open before losing.  Nor is there any other indication of competing the world tour event main draws.  As for the ATP Challenger series, he has not won at title in that tour, and the remaininf competition appear to be part of the ITF Futures which isn't sufficiently high level. -- Whpq (talk) 15:57, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * exactly Mayumashu (talk) 22:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Keep He meets notability by winning at least one Challenger title, (Kazan Kremlin Cup in doubles) - ( G a b i n h o >:) 23:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC))


 * Keep - I am swiching my !vote based on the Challenger Cup win which is sufficient to meet WP:NTENNIS. Thanks to Gabinho for pointing this out.  I missed it reviewing these results. -- Whpq (talk) 00:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Tennis player. Does not meet criteria for notability found at WP:NTENNIS. Is not a member of the ITF Hall of Fame; has not competed in the Fed Cup, Davis Cup, Hopman Cup or similar international competition; has not competed in the main draw in one of the major professional tournaments; has not won at least one title in any of the ATP Men's Challenger tournaments; and does not hold a record recognised by the International Tennis Federation, ATP. Notability is additionally not support by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.  Cind. amuse  10:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - He has a won a Challenger event in doubles which is one of the inclusion criteria. -- Whpq (talk) 11:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - If one of those 6 criteria listed at the WP:NTENNIS is reached the player becomes notable. I assume User:Cindamuse thinks that ALL of those criteria must be met. That is not the case. If one criteria is met then notability is reached. In this case the Challenger title won by Mertl at the 2010 Kazan Kremlin Cup – Doubles makes the player notable. ( G a b i n h o >:) 14:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC))
 * Comment. Rather than make poor assumptions about your fellow editors, your time may be best spent in providing appropriate sources to the article that support your claims. The official ATP Web site states that the subject has not received any career titles. Additionally, the article claims that he has not received any titles for either singles or doubles tournaments. If he has won a title, spend some time adding this to the prose of the article, supported by sources that clearly indicate that claim.  Cind. amuse  01:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Look for the string "Kazan" from his Doubles ATP Challenger record, and you will see that he and Yuri Schukin beat 	Tobias Kamke and Julian Reister 6-2, 6-4 to win the tournament. -- Whpq (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - The player won a Challenger title in doubles. Tennis Helper (talk) 21:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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