Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jandala (princely state)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Jandala (princely state)

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This is an odd one. An IP posted a redlinked template two days ago, after cluebot removed their first attempt at the same edit. Looking at the talk page, we have one editor disputing the claim that Jandala (an area in the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa region of Pakistan) was ever a Princely State. That post was from three days ago. There is another, longer post from February of 2011 saying much the same thing. Normally, I'd just remove the tag in the case of a missing rationale - but here it seems that there is indeed that rationale. I've posted both comments below, as a joint nomination. We also have one reference that appears to be a deadlink. On the merits... I dunno, places are always tricky where deletion is concerned. If Jandala exists (or existed) as a place, then perhaps moving it to a more appropriate name would suffice. We do have Jandala, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, which seems to refer to the current village of this name. Not sure what the hell to do with this one, guys - so, here you go. Officially, no recommendation from me. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:50, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The following were posted at Talk:Jandala (princely state) on the dates indicated.


 * Their was never a princely state named Jandala in the Indian Empire. This wikipedia page does not have any working links to outside sources on the internet, or even references from books to support the claim that such a political entity ever existed. This is an insult to historical accuracy and must be deleted. Thus I am deleting the content on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.47.170.81 (talk) 22:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Jandala was never a princely state. Before the Sikh invasion of Hazara the Khans of Jandala did exercise some feudal authority over the people of the said village but after its annexation by the Sikh Kingdom and later the British Indian Empire Jandala remained a village under the direct administration of the Government of India as part of the Hazara District and the same status was inherited by Pakistan.


 * Khans of Jandala have never enjoyed a princely status. Their is not one official or even academic document from either the British era that shows Jandala to be a Princely State. At most the Khan of Jandala was a Jagirdar.


 * Please provide proof that it was a princely or else it shall be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolori (talk • contribs) 13:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - there doesn't seem to be any evidence that it did exist, nor any that it didn't . I'm inclined to assume (in good faith) that the original authors weren't trying to perpetrate a hoax. But nonetheless, we need reliable sources to verify what has been added and confirm it's notability. That obviously isn't included in the article now. Unless it can be fixed, I would be inclined to delete. Stalwart 111  (talk) 23:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete There do exists villages by this name in Pakistan but I am unable to find a source that claims that there exists (or existed) a princely state by the name of Jandala in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or Kashmir. -- S M S  Talk 14:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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