Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jane Collins (politician)


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The result was keep. --BDD (talk) 18:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Jane Collins (politician)

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This individual has repeatedly stood for election, but never won. WP:POLITICIAN discourages articles for unelected candidates. All the reliable citations in this article refer to her electoral campaigns, which are covered by other articles. Bondegezou (talk) 16:53, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Week keep The sorces are enough to prove notability under WP:GNG however it does fail WP:POLITICIAN.--Jeffrd10 (talk) 12:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Many unelected candidates pass WP:GNG in the sense that there are multiple RS articles about them, but the reasoning, as I understand it, behind WP:POLITICIAN is that if all the coverage is about their candidacy(/ies), then it should be covered by articles on those elections. Are there any sources on this individual beyond election coverage? The only source I can see in the article that isn't election coverage is the last one, and that does not appear to meet WP:RS. Bondegezou (talk) 16:04, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * keep Once again, WP:POLITICIAN displays its bias against UK & US politicians from outside the main two parties. Under an electoral system that is so firmly first-past-the-post, there are a great many notable politicians who don't get elected. Twenty years ago they were Greens, this year it's UKIP. Her role within the party is, I would suggest, an indication of notability in itself.
 * We are here to be an encyclopedia offering credible, sourced information about topics of note and interest. Jane Collins is of sufficient interest within UK politics (and sadly so, for I despise UKIP) to warrant coverage. Andy Dingley (talk) 03:08, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Can I ask what "role within the party" you mean? The article says she's a "regional constituency manager", which doesn't seem particularly significant or notable. (Only two Wikipedia articles contain that phrase: this one and Phil Hobson (Welsh LibDem, and has been elected to something), so it's not like Wikipedia is full of articles on regional constituency managers in the main two parties!) Or do you mean that she's top of UKIP's regional list for Yorkshire and the Humber (European Parliament constituency)? I would agree that Collins has a good chance of becoming an MEP, but Wikipedia is a not a WP:CRYSTALBALL and she isn't an MEP yet. Other list toppers for that constituency don't have articles: there isn't one for Marlene Guest, who tops the BNP list (and the BNP won as many seats as UKIP in that constituency last time), or for Andrew Cooper, who tops the Greens list. What it comes down to for me is that the only reliable source citations given for this person are in the context of candidacies for elections that already have their own articles. We cannot offer "credible, sourced information about topics of note and interest" if there aren't any credible sources. Bondegezou (talk) 14:35, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Mild preference for Keep on the grounds that she heads a UKIP regional list for this year's EU elections which gives her sufficient notability within UKIP.Graemp (talk) 16:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as we do with many serial perennial candidates. Bearian (talk) 17:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
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