Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janet Borden Inc.


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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 03:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Janet Borden Inc.

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Article is on a New York art gallery; NCORP fail. I did manage to find four sources, but two are interviews and one was a single line in the New York Times confirming the date they opened. There is basically no in-depth independent coverage available. Possibly (talk) 18:58, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: I found sources establishing notability for Janet Borden as an artist. I have copied a line about the gallery to that new article. I think she's the notable topic (by our standard) and this one, Janet Borden Inc., can be safely redirected. Possibly (talk) 23:35, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  Possibly (talk) 18:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  Possibly (talk) 18:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.  Possibly (talk) 23:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , are you sure? None of the sources at Janet Borden say she's an artist. It's a hard case to make that the person is notable but the business is not, when they are so closely connected. I don't see that Borden is notable for anything except as a gallerist. I'd support renaming and keeping this page as a redirect. Vexations (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * She's a photographer herself with two works in permanent collections?Possibly (talk) 17:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK it seems likely I have this wrong about her being an artist. But: the Smithsonian did have her in the list of artists in their collection! Vexations, can you confirm the facts? Possibly (talk) 18:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yeah, it's not very clear. The work on https://americanart.si.edu/artist/janet-borden-6597 is by Mark Cohen, from a portfolion published by Borden. https://collections.eastman.org/objects/550523/janet-borden is portrait of Borden, by photographer JoAnn Verburg. Vexations (talk) 21:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I nominated Janet Borden for CSD. I don't see either as being notable now. Possibly (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak Keep it is hard to separate the artist and the company, but number 95 on this list https://books.google.com/books?id=xGCjXTVpv-0C&pg=PA85&dq=%22Janet+Borden+Inc.%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0wavx94LuAhUQ1lkKHVK0DCoQ6AEwAnoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=%22Janet%20Borden%20Inc.%22%20-wikipedia&f=false combined with several google book hits, make me lean keep. The article could be improved, my google results suggest the things that meet WP:GNG are not well documented in the article. Jeepday (talk) 18:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , please note that Borden is NOT an artist. As an aside, I thought it was interesting that we don't have an article on the #4 on that list: Maria Morris Hambourg, the #7, Weston Naef or the#18, Rick Wester. We seem to be better at wring biographic articles on photographers than on curators and gallerists. Vexations (talk) 22:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Darkwind (talk) 08:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per WP:SIGCOV, WP:NCORP, and WP:CREATIVE - this was never notable, and is not notable. I consider myself something of a "culture vulture" in New York, and I've never heard of this gallery. And it appears for good reasons: there are exactly zero newspaper articles about this company. Almost every gallery in the New York scene has a "stable" of several notable(?) artists that it represented from time to time, which then gets them a little, passing coverage, so such a factor is not determinative. Bearian (talk) 12:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   22:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I have found several mentions, but they are passing. There's no significant coverage. Less Unless (talk) 12:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


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