Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janet Mason


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Sandstein  05:11, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Janet Mason

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An in-universe description of a totally NN pornstar. Does not reach the general notability guidelines, nor those for entertainers. Hipocrite (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. How is this in-universe, and what guidelines doesn't she pass? For starters, she passes WP:PORNBIO and WP:GNG.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 06:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete All sources are non-notable porn websites (attempts by the porn industry to give itself publicity). AVN award is a promotional award by porn industry. WP:PORNBIO is too lax and it's under discussion in Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people). --Enric Naval (talk) 08:42, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * "Under discussion", yes, but it's still a guideline.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 09:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Hipocrite/nom and Enric Naval. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 15:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * keep AVN is an industry award, but so are oscars, grammys, tonys, etc, and those all count. two nominations is sufficient. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Those awards are far more notable than AVN award. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * To you, maybe.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 07:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep passes WP:PORNBIO criteria 2. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  02:06, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * one of the nominations is for a group scene shared with other seven actresses, it doesn't say much about her notability as an individual. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per the comments made below. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  16:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

* Note: Above user admitted to having an anti-porn bias.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 11:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: if this is covered by WP:PORNBIO, that only shows how ridiculously out of touch that "guideline" is with the rest of the project. People keep debating whether or not it is currently deprecated, but somebody gave a good answer to that on a similar Afd: it is precisely as deprecated as AfD participants decide it is. This very debate here, and several others, clearly demonstrate it currently has no consensus behind it, so it can be safely ignored. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That isn't what he meant, and you know it. What he meant is that people (usually opposers of WP:PORNBIO) are interpreting it the way they want to interpet it. How many times does this have to be explained to you?  Erpert  Who is this guy? 19:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Not independently notable - Industry promotion through AVN - You  really  can  19:55, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliably sourced biographical content. No indication the subject can satisfy the GNG. Fails all plausible constructions of the current PORNBIO text, and would fail all of the alternatives under discussion. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Fails "all plausible contructions"? Like what? (And please don't start that "purposefully obtuse" stuff again.) Anyway, she might have seemed of questionable notability at first because the nominator deleted an entire section of sourced information almost immediately after creating this AfD (but I someone get the feeling of WP:IDONTCARE creeping up again...).  Erpert  Who is this guy? 02:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - As with the others, PORNBIO is insufficient grounds when cited as the sole ground to keep an article. Even worse here though is that in the past porn blp discussions, nominations for shared/group awards are deemed insufficient.  If Ms. Mason's bio can't even meet the technicalities of that low-lying fruit of WP:PORNBIO, this is like a double-delete. Tarc (talk) 05:25, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And also at that page I have clarified that I am anti-nonnotable-porn-on-Wikipedia, not porn in general, so this meta-comment by Erpert on my !vote is without merit. Tarc (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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