Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janet Turpin Myers


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The result was delete. The consensus is that there is a lack of reliable independent sourcing to demonstrate her notability - writing multiple books is not in and of itself sufficient is the message given here - and so she does not currently meet the criteria for inclusion.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 15:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Janet Turpin Myers

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WP:BLP of a writer with no strong claim to passing WP:AUTHOR. The strongest claim of notability here is that she was a shortlisted nominee for her local arts council's local literary awards in 2014 -- however, a literary award has to be national (on the order of the Governor General's Awards or the Giller or the Pulitzer), not local, for a nomination to constitute an AUTHOR pass in and of itself. She might still qualify for an article if she could be sourced over WP:GNG, but virtually zero of the sources here represent any sort of media coverage -- every single reference here is to a primary source or to a commercial sales page on an online bookstore, with the exception of one single solitary citation to one review in a college literary zine (and even that citation fails to provide the title of the review, or the specific issue in which it was published.) So WP:GNG hasn't been passed here either. As always, Wikipedia is not a free public relations platform on which any writer is automatically entitled to an article just because she exists -- reliable source coverage, supporting a claim of notability that satisfies WP:AUTHOR, must be present for them to earn one. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: There's sufficient notability given her multiple published works and she's still writing. Not written in an advertisement style. VanEman (talk) 17:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Notability or lack thereof is a factor of how much reliable source media coverage the topic has or hasn't received. No number of books is enough in and of itself to give their writer an exemption from having to be the subject of media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 03:33, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep: As the original contributor, I disagree and feel this author is notable enough. I will go through the page and cite more media sources. Additionally, I feel that the author's inclusion in a number of established literary festivals and literary journals should speak to her notability. I originally created the page in response to the author's inclusion in WikiProject_Women_writers/Missing_articles. RhettFester (talk) 22:11, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment for RhettFester - There are some problems with the sources that are here: many are not reliable sources (blogs, member profiles, etc.). Also, you have created references for her own works. References should be limited to sources about her. Her own works are given as a bibliography, but they are not cited. For the poems, you can use a form like "in: (name of journal), v.n, (date), (page)". Photographs and sound files of her reading are not about her, so those do not support notability. It is easier to see the reliable sources if non-reliable sources are removed from the article. LaMona (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment for LaMona - Understood, thank you. I appreciate your guidance. I will try to improve the references. RhettFester (talk) 01:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as searches noticeably found nothing better. SwisterTwister   talk  03:59, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vipinhari  &#124;&#124;  talk  04:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete A minor author who does not meet our notability guideline WP:AUTHOR. Participation in common literary festivals and publication in common literary journals does not confer notability. The notion that currently published writers are notable just by being published is surprising. Writers get published. Many truly notable writers are no longer active, since they are dead. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory of all currently active writers. Being active does not make a writer notable. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


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