Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janez Pristavec (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Notability not established. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 11:13, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Janez Pristavec
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Unclear notability; I can't find any reliable source discussing his notability in detail. The article has already been deleted once. Eleassar my talk 12:15, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Hi I believe this artist is notable due to his having a 1998 book written about his life and works by the Republic of Slovenia's Maribor Art Gallery (one of the main museums for modern and contemporary art in Slovenia) as documented by the Library of Congress. What are your thoughts? Thanks. Picomtn (talk) 15:15, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment: I think this is good enough. I'd still rather see that this discussion proceeds in a regular manner so that we get a clear consensus. --Eleassar my talk 15:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi I agree with more discussion as his WP page in Slovenia is so bare (but has pretty paintings of his) and would really like for someone in the art world to let us know more about him. Thanks. Picomtn (talk) 15:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added these references to the lead of this article. Thanks. Picomtn (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * On the basis of the arguments below, I think this painter is not notable enough to have his biography here. As stated, "One exhibition catalog does not prove notability." --Eleassar my talk 07:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)


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 * Delete The sourcing of the article is misleading. whose works were … archived in the United States by the Library of Congress merely means that the LOC holds a copy of an exhibition catalogue. That doesn't confer notability. Looking a bit closer at the ref for Maribor Art Gallery which points to the main page of the Maribor Art Gallery website, I can only find one mention of Pristavc, which shows that he participated in a group show. In the list of exhibitions, I don't see any notable galleries or museums. Fails WP:ARTIST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mduvekot (talk • contribs)
 * Comment Hi I respectfully point you towards your own WP:ARTIST citation that says must have been the subject of an independent book.  Please notice that this doesn't say book's plural, just book singular--meaning that for an artist to have notability they only have to have a single publication about them, which this artist most definitely does. Thanks. Picomtn (talk) 08:32, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your interpretation of WP:ARTIST. In full, WP:ARTIST §3 says: The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. It does not mean that for an artist to have notability they only have to have a single publication about them. The book you mentioned, ISBN 9616483544 appears to be authored by Pristavec, with a foreword by Berdič. That is not an "independent book". I'm not convinced that Janez Pristavec is the creator of a well-known body of work that has received significant critical attention. I'm open to changing my mind about the notability of Pristavec, but I'd need to see better sources than those that are in the article now. Mduvekot (talk) 20:29, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Thank you so much your very illuminating, and concise, explanation of WP policy as it pertains to this articles subject. With that being said, I must concur with you that further sources should be found to support this article subjects notability. Thanks. Picomtn (talk) 21:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'm inclined to vote Keep here as it seems convincing enough. Inviting for his analysis.  SwisterTwister   talk  04:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. One exhibition catalog does not prove notability. Such publications are not normally significant critical works.  DGG ( talk ) 07:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:43, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


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