Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janosch Moldau


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Courcelles 00:11, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Janosch Moldau

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Self published musician. Does not meet WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC. Only claims of notability are opening for notable acts, appearances in unnamed festivals and charting in a streaming radio/webzine chart (not the national chart required by WP:MUSIC. Other references are to self published blogs. RadioFan (talk) 12:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello. My name is Claus and I'm a fan of Janosch Moldau. I wrote this wikipedia article about him. It's not true, that Janosch only appears in unnamed festivals. He was listed in the GEWC charts which is important for 'small' bands and he was support of well-known and popular bands such as Mesh from Bristol (UK) or De/Vision from Berlin (Germany) (by the way, I run the official Fanclub for Mesh). It looks, that with his forthcoming 3rd album he can become more known. He did two shows in Austria this spring and it was a big success there. For small artists it is very hard to become known, because magazines only write about them if they have a wikipedia entry. And wikipedia wants to delete the article because the artist is not a 'superstar'. You can see the problem? I would be very happy if you could decide to not delete this article. Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monghi242 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Wikipedia isn't for making small artists known. They've got to be known before they'll meet guidelines for notability.  The reliables sources must come before the Wikipedia article, not the other way around.  'Supporting' well known acts doesn't help either as notability isn't inherited.  This artist may one day meet notability guidelines, but that day doesn't appear to be today.--RadioFan (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:RS. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete our fanboy means well, but those sources won't cut it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Stuartyeates (GNG, etc). --Noleander (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.