Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japan Baptist Association


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The result was   keep.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 05:58, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Japan Baptist Association

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Unsourced stub for seven years - I cannot find one reliable source to support the existence of this organization. Acather96 (talk) 19:19, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * delete non-verifiable. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:52, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. This seems to be the problem. There is a page on the Japanese Wikipedia for the Nihon Baputesuto Rengō (ja:日本バプテスト連合), which is given there as the Japan Baptist Association. That article provides a number of printed sources, but no internet ones. The association does seem to exist (here is a church that says it is a member), but is hard to research. The English article, however, says that the JBA is associated with the Baptist General Conference, while the Japanese article says its JBA is associated with American Baptist Association. Doing some searching, I found that there is another organization called the Nihon Baputesuto Kyōkai Rengō (roughly, Japan Association of Baptist Churches) which also has a JP Wikipedia article (ja:日本バプテスト教会連合) and which is actually associated with the Baptist General Conference. They do have a home page here. So it seems that the article is just wrong. Both organizations exist, though I hesitate to judge right now which is more likely to pass WP:ORG. An error itself, if it can be fixed, is not reason to delete, but in deciding this AfD we first have to choose which organization the article is referring to, and then decide whether that passes notability criteria. Michitaro (talk) 04:11, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Christianity is of course a minority religion in Japan, though I am told it has been quite influential on attitudes there. This is a denomination and exists.  We should keep the aritcle and hope that one day someone will translate the Japanese WP articel into it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:33, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Per Michitaro, it might be better to create a second stub and correct the errors on this one, so we can have a rational discussion on the two organisations involved. Otherwise, we should just redirect to Protestantism in Japan until a good article can be written . -- 101.119.14.115 (talk) 01:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile, I have corrected the error on this article. -- 101.119.14.115 (talk) 01:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep since sources exist -- 101.119.14.115 (talk) 01:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:26, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep...and clarify which body this refers to - it seems legitimate sources exist, but may not be in English and not online. Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
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