Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japanese Left Army


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Shereth 18:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Japanese_Left_Army
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Speedy declined with a comment about how such a long-standing mil. hist. article should go to AfD not speedy A7. Article makes no effort at all to establish notability of the subject. Article has no references. Article has no dates or contextual information to let the reader know such things as: What century was this army formed? What did they do? Why? Article fails to provide any information and has failed to do so for 3 years now. L0b0t (talk) 13:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak delete because of no sources, and I don't know if sources could be provided — if this were a real army with sources, this would definitely be a notable article. Article could easily have dates: look at the battles, this is the war between Japan and Korea just before 1600.  For any of you with the Age of Empires II expansion, this article is about the Japanese enemies that you face.  Still, the sourcing problems make this nonnotable unless proof is provided otherwise.  Nyttend (talk) 13:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Question I'm sorry, I think I may have misunderstood you. Are you saying that this is not a real army, this is just from some video game?  Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 13:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe he's saying that the video game was based on the historical army/battles discussed in the article.--Cube lurker (talk) 18:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The article is unclear on many points. L0b0t (talk) 19:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry for being unclear: I was trying to say that, if this was a real army, it was part of the historical military forces depicted in the video game. Nyttend (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree that the article is in a bad shape. In particular, that it lacks any contextual information makes it harder to understand what it is really. But since the term Japanese Left Army appears in articles such as Battle of Noryang or Siege of Namwon, this is a real historical stuff. So, the deletion doesn't make sense. -- Taku (talk) 23:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this the name of a field army, or just a listing of who was on the left flank? If it is the name of a fixed formation, I'm inclined to say keep, but if it was a loose collection of units on the left flank, I would say roll it into the article on the particular battles and delete.--Nobunaga24 (talk) 05:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In Japanese invasions of Korea (1592–1598), it is described as one of two independently-operating parts of the invading army (and sometimes two separate armies), called there the Army of the Left and the Army of the Right. I suspect that article has a better translation of the name, and this article should be moved to Japanese Army of the Left (with suitably disambiguating parentheses). —Quasirandom (talk) 08:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and remand to the Japanese military history project for cleanup, with the recommendation that it be moved to Japanese Army of the Left or similar, to be consonant with the existing articles that already demonstrate the subject's notability. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  JForget  22:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as per Taku, Quasirandom. Appears to be sourced name of an actual field army. Edward321 (talk) 04:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. This bare list of units and battles needs to be expanded to show the actual historical significance of the actions undertaken. AAs is, its relatively meaningless to non-experts. DGG (talk) 06:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


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