Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japanese mythology in popular culture (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and draftify to Draft:Japanese mythology in popular culture. There is a pretty clear consensus to delete in this discussion. The notability concerns are not particularly convincing, and most participants agree that an article on this topic could exist. However, there does appear to be agreement that a list format may not be the right approach for this article, and therefore the article should be blown up and started over from scratch. The reason I'm draftifying the article is a bit IAR since no one really asked for that, but I'd like to keep the article visible to non-admins for two purposes: first, in case anyone wants to merge any good content to other articles, and second, in case anyone wants to take a stab at rewriting the article, they'll have access to the 14 citations in the article as well as the other good sources brought up within this discussion.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 18:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Japanese mythology in popular culture
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A pure indiscriminate list and example farm, fails WP:LISTN. Potentially notable topic, but the article is entirely unsalvageable and has seen no improvement since previous AfD in 2011. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability of the topic was established in the 2011 AfD. While the current article may indeed suck, nothing is preventing any editor from cleaning it up. WP:NOTCLEANUP applies. Jclemens (talk) 04:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, WP:NEXIST implies there isn't somewhere else for the information to go and therefore there is no point deleting the article. However, any reliably sourced info can easily be added to Japanese mythology without this article having to be there, that article is not even that large. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:39, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NLIST as hopelessly broad. The topic might be suitable as a general article, but not as a list of examples. (Same applies to Greek mythology in popular culture and other mythologies.) Clarityfiend (talk) 04:26, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * delete not appropriate for a list. Notability concerns. an interesting topic for an actual article, but we can’t list every single instance of something common like, I dunno, a kappa or an oni in popular culture. If this list was actually going to be maintained do you know how many anime and manga alone would have to be listed? Dronebogus (talk) 07:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or draft. Title of the article is not "list of" and no need for it to be a list. Just cut everything without a source, and what is sourced put into paragraph form instead of a list. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:12, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There’s a mere 15 sources for this huge list, and they’re all mediocre or terrible. Keep what? Dronebogus (talk) 08:26, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If you cut out all the garbage and only used what MIGHT be salvageable, the article would look like this:

Elements from Japanese folklore and mythology have appeared many times in popular culture.

Akaname

 * The akaname has been depicted in various media, including in the anime and video game franchise Yo-kai Watch.

kitsune

 * Neil Gaiman's novella The Sandman: The Dream Hunters is about a Buddhist monk and a kitsune who fall in love.