Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jari Sara


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete due to the WP:ATHLETE failure (if an editor has proof that the Finnish league is actually fully professional, let me know and I'll restore). пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  14:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Jari Sara

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Contested PROD. Sara appears to fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG Spiderone  08:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone  08:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 10:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Professional player in the top tier. Does not fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. --SM (talk) 13:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * But he does though! - he hasn't played in a fully-pro league, and he hasn't reveived significant coverage! GiantSnowman 15:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Per nom. GauchoDude (talk) 23:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, a professional player in the Finnish top league. And yes, he has got significant coverage. Some example links: . ,,n (talk) 00:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not add these links to the article and improve it? Listing links on an AfD isn't the same as those same links being put on an article to improve it and prove notability. GiantSnowman 08:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep professional player in a notable European league who has received web coverage via profile. Have added some more detail to article. Eldumpo (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The player being professional is irrelevant since the league isn't. The source isn't enough I feel as WP:GNG states: "The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally preferred." since I question the quality and the reliability of the source. Spiderone  08:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - the player being professional is all that matters. Where does WP:ATH even mention League.  The guy is a fully professional football player.  End of debate.  Pro golfers/tennis players etc regularly compete with amateurs in Open competitions.  Amateur teams compete in the FA Cup - does that make Ryan Giggs non-notable?DavidDublin (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Playing at a fully professional level. WP:ATH does not require every team/player in the league he competes to be fully pro. DavidDublin (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete He seems certainly notable enough to be in the Finnish version of Wikipedia, but is no where near notable enough to be included in the English version. Govvy (talk) 15:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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