Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jarrett Grube


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Seattle Mariners minor league players. (non-admin closure)  HurricaneFan 25  00:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Jarrett Grube

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Non-notable minor league player. Yes he is active, but he fails WP:GNG and WP:BASE/N. A Google News search shows he was All-CUSA, but that, to me, seems to be too low a bar to set. All-American is one thing, but All-Conference opens up the floodgates. Creating a stub or entry on a minor league page for every active minor leaguer would also be cumbersome. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge/Redirect to Seattle Mariners minor league players, since he's still active and in the organization. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 16:11, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect per HBWS. I'm not sure why you unmerged this one to begin with. Spanneraol (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Because I don't think he's notable enough even for a sentence at the minor league page. A line has to be drawn somewhere, no? – Muboshgu (talk) 21:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Why dont you think he belongs? He plays at AAA.. he's not some Rookie league guy. Spanneraol (talk) 17:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Because he simply isn't notable. He's an organizational guy, just a Rookie league guy who didn't quit. These pages are meant to be a holding area for people who aren't quite notable yet, but might become soon. This guy doesn't fit that. There's no reason that I can see to keep him, since otherwise these pages would include every single minor leaguer in the organization. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Revert to redirect. Jarrett Grube is already included in Seattle Mariners minor league players (in the Tacoma Rainiers roster).  I do not understand this nomination.  This page was a redirect to that target article, as of 11 November.  Yesterday, the nominator tagged the redirect for speedy deletion as G8; this was (correctly) declined as inapplicable.  The nominator then restored the article to its pre-redirect state, initially tagging it BLPPROD, then settling on standard PROD; this was declined.  Now we're at AFD.  Procedurally, efforts to delete a redirect (which this was) belong at RFD, but I cannot imagine RFD would be sympathetic as this player is mentioned in the target article.  Why was the 11 November status quo problematic? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-revert to redirect. As I have already done in the past couple days when the nominator keeps changing it. (I was the involved admin on the speedy and removed the PROD as well.) The nominator keeps removing the player from the list page as well on similar thin arguments (Why is this one player different from the others on that list?). Rmhermen (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Because those at least have some sourcing, and some possibility of notability. This one has none. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a long-running dispute between the nominator and User:Alexsautographs, who initially merged/redirected the page to the list. It may be connected to that, in some way? -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 15:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I assure you its not related. Alex was right to merge it rather than let it stand, but I don't think he's notable enough even for a short blurb on that page. Alex has nothing to do with this nomination. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. It was just something that had occurred to me. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 16:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fair given what's happened to consider it a possibility. – Muboshgu (talk) 06:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.