Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jasmine Villegas


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The result was   keep. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 19:59, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Jasmine Villegas

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I cannot find evidence that this person meets WP:NMUSIC. Her primary fame seems to arise from appearing in a video with Justin Beiber and maybe/maybe-not dating/kissing him. Her only release was on a non-notable label, and a free download. Now, maybe there are sources, and I just can't find them, but what I have found isn't promising. Even if we verified all of the videos she's allegedly been in, I still don't think that makes her notable, as just appearing in a commercial or a video, or even in a non-recurring role on a TV show isn't necessarily enough to meet WP:ENT. However, should good sources become available, I'll be happy to withdraw the nomination.Qwyrxian (talk) 23:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: What elements of WP:MUSIC does this wannabe fulfill? No sources and a free download "mixtape" put up on the Internet a year and a half ago?  Ten thousand "auteurs" a week manage that much on Youtube.   Ravenswing   03:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Star767 21:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. According to what I've found on Google News, there are actually sources, but it maybe is you just couldn't find them, and there seem to be enough to meet the notability guidelines on Wikipedia. (EditorE (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC))


 * Keep and allow improvement through regular editing as it seems that EditorE is correct and (sorry) Star767 is incorrect. The WP:GNG is met through multiple independent sources speaking about this person in enough detail to support an article. With respects to Ravenswing, notability is not temporary. With respects to nominator Qwyrxian (willing to withdraw if sources are offered), We look first to the GNG and if met, need not then decide what SNGs she might or might not fail. It is only when the GNG is failed that we then look to see if she might otherwise meet an SNG. If she failed both, then a deletion would be correct. But if found to meets either GNG or SNG, a keep is correct.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * But please note that WP:GNG requires in-depth coverage, and I don't think we have that here. Furthermore, every report I saw is either just listing her as a back-up to some other star (not in-depth) or is a "who's dating who", which falls under the routine coverage exception. So unless someone can actually point out some specific articles that have in depth coverage, I cannot withdraw. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The GNG does not call for "in depth"... it calls for "significant coverage"... which are not the same things per Wikipedia definition. IE: " "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." So while long, in-depth articles are nice to have, what IS a requirement toward establishing notability is that sources need to provide more-than-trivial information in order to qualify as SIGCOV. We have those and and encyclopedic article can be maintained.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * What I'm also thinking is that there's a lot of info on her on her website's bio that not being used in the article, so maybe there could be some more in-depth info that can be used here. (EditorE (talk) 13:23, 6 April 2013 (UTC))
 * I've also found quite a few interviews of her. These are found I've found so far: She goes indepth into her mixtape and album and how she writes her songs, and other info on her. I'm sure there's a lot of other interviews out there, but I hope this will contribute to the aritcle well. (EditorE (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC))
 * Her website is not independent, and youtube is basically never a reliable source per WP:RS. Qwyrxian (talk) 15:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * True, but these interviews are from Clevver TV, What's Trending and Cambio, which are still pretty reliable sources. (EditorE (talk) 15:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC))


 * Jasmine Villegas (aka Jasmine V) deserves her own wikipedia page. She has several singles for sale at Amazon.com including "Didn't Mean It", "Paint A Smile", "All These Boys" and "Serious" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eat777 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Several reliable and independent sources have significant coverage of her kissing the Bieber and of her music. Edison (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per above Davey 2010   Talk  00:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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