Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Castro (singer)


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The result was   early close keep - very clear consensus exists that this singer is notable; see WP:POINT. Bearian (talk) 23:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Jason Castro (singer)

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Delete. After Articles for deletion/Alexis Grace (2nd nomination) saw a “delete” outcome, I feel that the time has come to determine which of the American Idol contestants truly deserve their own articles. WP:NOTINHERITED tells us that just because somebody appeared on American Idol, it doesn’t make them notable and worthy of an article. This fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. They’ve done nothing worthy of note since they appeared on American Idol. The possibility of a future album breaks WP:CRYSTAL. The American Idol-related releases do not warrant him the right to an article, as it was released by every contestant, meaning that notability is speradic. For instance, if 1000 people set a notable world record, does each and every one deserve an article? DJ 11:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep from WP:MUSIC: "9. Has won or placed in a major music competition". I would call American Idol a major music competition, and I would think fourth place warrants inclusion. Jujutacular talkcontribs 15:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact that he was still making the news a year after his appearance (eg,, ) makes him notable enough for me. Even if the album never gets completed, he still made the news for working on an album, and that should go towards satisfying WP:N. You can't use Alexis Grace as precedent to delete this article. She didn't make it beyond the audition stage, while Castro was a fourth-place finisher. (Never mind that last comment. I was confusing Alexis Grace with Alexis Cohen.) Zagalejo^^^ 19:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I think some bitter Alexis Grace fan has started tagging all the American Idol articles up for deletion. I agree with all that was said before about why this article should not be deleted, but above all, this contestant in particular is currently signed to a major label (Atlantic Records) after Idol and is working on an album. If Grace gets signed to a major label and releases something noteworthy, then Wikipedia will allow her to have her own article. Fanficgurl'' 4:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Firstly, as I am British and have never seen a single episode of American Idol, I am not a bitter fan of Alexis Grace or any other participant. You need to read WP:GOODFAITH. Secondly, you keep saying if she releases something, if she becomes notable. We don't keep Wikipedia articles just in case the subject becomes notable. You need to read WP:CRYSTAL. DJ 22:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This sort of mass nomination is unproductive because it leads to people voting based on "I like it"/"I don't like it" since no one can reasonably be expected to properly research 38 articles of the same nature in a week. (Indeed this has already begun to happen.) Since the results of these AfDs are likely to be influenced by voting rather than a proper discussion, they should all be closed with no prejudice against reopening a few at a time after a good faith attempt to determine notability has been made. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as a (unintentionally) disruptive nomination. The nominator rapid fire nominated 38 American Idol contestants all with the same (invalid) rationale that Alexis Grace (who finished 11th and hasn't had a chance to do anything post Idol yet) was deleted.  It is quite clear that he/she made no attempt to research any of the nominations as several quite clearly meet multiple inclusion criteria.  Some of these articles should be kept, and others merged, but none should be deleted.  All arguably meet WP:MUSIC #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition" by virtue of making the finals of American Idol and the less notable ones should at least be merged with their respective American Idol season X pages.
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