Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Krizan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Jason Krizan

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Article does not meet the criteria set down in Notability (sports), specifically the baseball section. A college player who was selected low in the 2011 MLB draft, but has not played MLB. References are primarily local news, no sign of significant wide coverage of the subject. A discussion at DYK is ongoing regarding this, and two other articles, which has stalled. I have listed all three articles here to generate some proper discussion on the topic, so that it can be decided once and for all in the proper manner. (Discussion: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Roth (baseball), Jason Krizan, Cody Martin (baseball))  Harrias  talk 11:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 April 3.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  11:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep as creator and DYK nominator Sufficient coverage to meet GNG, including in national news (USA Today and ESPN.com) and nonregional coverage (aside from Texas newspapers, there's papers cited from Springfied, Ohio, Grand Rapids and New York). Besides, from WP:ITSLOCAL: "Wikipedia's General Notability Guideline requires multiple sources independent of the subject to cover the subject in order to establish notability. But this guideline does not specify the locality of the coverage." These articles have multiple sources independent of the subject. It shouldn't matter that they don't meet NSPORTS, they meet GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep the question is whether any of the national coverage is more than routine game summaries or statistical summaries. Note that WP:GNG requires that "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention". I would let this article pass due to the National record that has set this player apart although this in and of itself does not pass WP:ATHLETE. In addition, the detail beginning with his high school careeer, gives me the feeling of a fairly complete biographical sketch.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I was just coming back to say that his NCAA record pushes him past WP:Run-of-the-mill coverage. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge This is a well-written article but I don't see how the subject is any more notable than any of the dozens if not hundreds of college and minor league players who've been deleted or merged. Just about every good Division I player in a major sport has received coverage like this in local or regional outlets. — NY-13021 (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NCOLLATH, Krizan has "Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team", which is demonstrated by his All-American status.--TM 18:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - He may not meet WP:BASE/N but he meets WP:ATHLETE, specifically WP:NCOLLATH, by virtue of setting the NCAA Division I record for doubles. Rlendog (talk) 19:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, the doubles record may be a better DYK hook for him than merely All-American. Rlendog (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. I'll bring that up at the DYK nom page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep as a first-team All-American and NCAA record holder elevates subject above the "dozens if not hundreds of college and minor league players" who have received some media attention, per WP:NCOLLATH. - Dravecky (talk) 23:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.