Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Plummer (politician) (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:35, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Jason Plummer (politician)
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Doesn't quite seem to meet WP:GNG yet. Different article than in 2012, which was a different article than in 2010, and was WP:SALTed for a while in 2011. (Might be worth mentioning that Paid-contribution disclosure has become part of the Wikimedia terms of service since the last time this article was re-created &mdash; just in case that's a factor, which I don't know yet.) Closeapple (talk) 08:04, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * In cases where a politician has unsuccessfully/not yet successfully run in multiple elections, which should we redirect to? - The Bushranger One ping only 13:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Hey guys, I just read this article. I rewrote some content in the opening paragraph to see if we can establish why this guy should be notable. Here's what I wrote: "“He is best known for being Bill Brady’s gubernatorial running mate in 2010, narrowly losing to Pat Quinn, after the infamous case of Gov. Rod Blagojevich attempting to sell Barack Obama's Senate seat.” I think someone running on a gubernatorial ticket following the resignation/criminal conviction of a sitting governor is pretty darn notable. What do other people think about my take on this? Thanks! --Michael Powerhouse (talk) 19:39, 29 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Being a non-winning candidate for lieutenant governor is not an automatic notability freebie that exempts a person from having to be better-sourced than this — the base election coverage focuses primarily on the top of the ticket, and far, far less on the #2, so the case for deeming the lieutenant governor candidate "inherently" notable is far weaker than the case for the governor candidate. (And even then, a gubernatorial candidate still doesn't actually get an automatic inclusion freebie just for the fact of being a candidate either — he's just likelier to have enough reliable source coverage to clear WP:GNG, but still isn't guaranteed an article if he doesn't.) But there isn't a GNG-passing volume or quality of sourcing being shown here: of the seven footnotes, two are raw tables of the election results themselves (valid for verifying that detail if the article has already cleared GNG, but not a bringer of GNG in and of itself), and two are to an industry trade magazine, not a widely distributed general interest source — leaving us with just three sources that actually constitute media coverage, of which two are to the same small-town radio station and all three are in the context of his candidacies themselves. But every candidate in any election anywhere could always show three sources about that, so that's not in and of itself enough coverage to make his candidacy more notable than the norm. As for the Bushranger's question, if there are multiple possible redirect targets, then WP:XY says we shouldn't redirect at all — if a reader actually searches for him, all of the pages with his name in them will come up in the list of results anyway, so not having a redirect would not prevent anybody from finding the articles. Bearcat (talk) 22:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as non notable politicval candidate. I admit to merely having read the page and looked at sources there.  If someone locaget WP:INDEPTH and WP:SIGCOV of his career, such as articles tat explore a major achievement or controversy that received major attention, or that had a major impact of some sort, feel free to ping me to reconsider.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete canddiates for governor are not default notable, and the coverage does not rise above routine. If Plummer is elected to the state senate next year, as he is seeking to be, he will be notable. But that will not occur until next November, and we do not keep articles on candidates just because they might win.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


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