Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Stadtlander


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mkdw talk 19:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Jason Stadtlander

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I came across this via another AfD for another article created by the same editor and found that there were a ton of issues with the article. How this made it through AfC, I honestly can't tell you. None of the sources on the article in its original state were usable as a reliable source in the slightest. The most usable one comes from a local paper that doesn't look to be all that usable as a reliable source either and that's ultimately all we really have to go by, so I left it on the article. A search brought up one more link ( by the same paper, but even if we include the local paper that's still not enough to show notability for this author. I can't see where any of his voice acting roles are considered to be overwhelmingly notable either. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 05:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 05:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. No indication that this person is notable. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 15:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - It might be worthwhile for editors evaluating this article to look at the history for this version before the removal of puffery. I was puzzled by the lone remaining reference when first looking at the article as it made no mention of him as an author or voice actor.  To be clear, there is nothing on the Swampscott Reader article that establishes that the Jason Stadtlander in the  news coverage is the same as the one covered in this Wikipedia article.  If it's in there, I missed it.  In any case, even if it is the same person, the coverage is not about what he is notable for, and is just coverage of local community activity in a local community paper.  The two books listed do not establish notability.  The first is a self-published book with no critical coverage in independent reliable sources.  The second hasn't even been published yet, and it's not clear what this small publisher does as their site claims they are "a small, independent publisher of books providing a label and resource to the independent publisher with a unique view on the world around us and beyond".  -- Whpq (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Though I do agree that the author has no notability what-so-ever, (and in fact had considered applying for deletion when I stumbled upon the article myself last week) I do question Whpq's statement regarding 'self-published' authors as in today's publishing industry there has been a very big movement away from traditional publishers (even with notable authors)... so I do not think that has anything to do with what makes this author invalid for wiki. The pure fact that he simply hasn't created much of interest is my argument. HighMerrits (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - With the movement to lots of self-publishing, there is a plethora of non-notable self-published books. Self-publishing has no editorial oversight in selecting the work that a regular publisher would.  A self-published book can be notable, but there's a large barrier to overcome.  For establishing notability, if I find that I cannot come up with coverage for a self-published work, I am much more confident that the work is not notable versus a book published through a major publisher where I found no coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 17:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Good point Whpq, I hadn't considered that aspect. Question, is there a list or guidelines or set parameters as to what makes someone notable? (I'm fairly new to Wiki) Or is it simply at the discretion of the Wiki editors to decide for themselves if the person is notable or not? HighMerrits (talk) 12:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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