Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Javed Iqbal Qazilbash


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The result was   delete. Fails WP:BLP alone with no sourcing, and his "book" does not create notability as it's not notable on its own. Fails WP:PROFESSOR. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 15:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Javed Iqbal Qazilbash

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My first impulse was to prod this article as a non referenced BLP but I'll let someone else decide if thats necessary. Although the person appears notable the article needs to be completely rewritten and appears to be substantially copied from somewhere. A lot of spelling and grammar mistakes are present indicating it may have been a translation. Kumioko (talk) 00:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Speedy Keep This article is a collosal mess, but AfD is not the proper forum for that. Qazilbash is clearly notable, being listed on reference site for famous Iranian poets.  Being that he is notable, and there are no known insurmountable neutrality or verifiability issues with this article, let's keep it. NJ Wine (talk) 02:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete How do you know "being listed on reference site for famous Iranian poets" is a reliable site?  Just because somebody on on a "site for famous ", doesn't make the person famous.  The site being referenced was setup up for the "Second conference of Iranian and world poets" held in October 2011.  Conference was organized by the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance.  He was one of the attendees and therefore had some of his poetry on the website.  The only information I can find about the conference comes from Iranian papers and they all use the same wording.  The following month, the "International Islamic Resistance Poetry Festival" was also held in Iran and I can't find any English refs he attended that one, little alone English refs about the festival. I'm unable to find any English references that has any reliable information about him.  He does work for Ansariyan Publications as a translator.  Ansariyan is a private (it appears) company that publishes Shi'a twelver literature into English.   I have to go with delete unless some Persian sources show up.  Bgwhite (talk) 05:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: per NJ Wine, AFD is not clean up. -- lTopGunl (talk) 16:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete The http://irworldpoets.com/ site has four lines of text and two bullet points. This is not indepth coverage. Feel free to ping my talk page if other references with indepth coverage are found. Not your siblings&#39; deletionist (talk) 07:25, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 01:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:TNT. This article is such a mess that we'll do better to get rid of it and try again later.  Nyttend (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - and allow time for improvements, per WP:PRESERVE. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - The article's style and layout have been improved as of this post. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Northamerica1000. The article has a decent format and structure now, along with references. This provides passing notability, IMHO.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 03:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:AUTHOR. His book is not famous and neither is he. Nothing notable that this gentleman has done has generated wide significant coverage per WP:GNG.  If proof exists in his native language it probably should be added but I couldn't find him in urdu wikipedia so I have my doubts that it exists. --Joshuaism (talk) 17:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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