Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Javille Brooks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  01:31, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Javille Brooks

 * – ( View AfD View log | edits since nomination)

Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. HeinzMaster (talk) 22:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Please back your opinion with policy guidelines Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 20:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Caribbean. HeinzMaster (talk) 22:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep User has nominated ~25 articles for deletion in ~20 minutes. Imposisble that a WP:BEFORE was done for each, and the nominations appear to be in bad faith. NemesisAT (talk) 22:42, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - has clearly decided all players that play for national teams he does not feel confer notability are those which should be deleted. The usual revisionism and elitism around notability in sports Zanoni (talk) 08:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:11, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No teams confer notability per se. What shows something is notable is coverage in reliable secondary sources that is significant about the person and is also independent of them. So an interview with someone published somewhere is not going to work, and if the publication is their employer it will not work. The exact point that publications become independent is sometimes disputed. People do not become notable because they play on a specific team, or are part of a competition, notability comes from coverage in reliable secondary sources for doing so. The first vote should not be "speedy keep" but procedural keep. However since the individual nominations are presneted individually, there is no reason to link them or to kill them just because they came quickly. If only we had a similar rule on speed of creating new articles. What probably happened in the nominator spent a lot of time reviewing available sources and then did all the nominations at once. This regularly happens. The only way we can justify keeping this article is if someone presents some in-depth coverage of this person in a sources that is independent, reliable and secondary, and we need more than one source, with the 2 sources independent of each other, to really keep the article. It makes sense to go through the football categories starting with one place, since to search for sources on people from a given place, you need to search at times in specific databases that cover that place, so systemically going through one place and then another makes sense. It allows you to build up your knowledge of where to search and not have a steep learning curve for each nomination.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - where is the significant coverage of him? I can find the usual trivial mentions in match reports and match day squad lists but nothing actually addressing Brooks directly and in detail. This therefore means that there is insufficient evidence of a passing of the required guidelines (i.e. WP:GNG and/or WP:SPORTBASIC). AfD is WP:NOTAVOTE and so the copied and pasted keep arguments which make no reference to any Wikipedia guideline or policy should either be ignored completely or given less weight. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:55, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - With limited adequate secondary sources this page and sources does not express the notability of the player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmateurGolfer01 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.