Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jax Money Crew


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Jax Money Crew

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This article is about a counterstrike team. They claim notability, but only have one secondary source - an interview in a counterstrike webzine. My sense is this entry serves to promote their team, rather than having encyclopedic value. Liberal Classic (talk) 04:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Reason not to delete: (Taken from Jax Money Crew: Talk) I (The article creator) am not representing the organization nor was asked to by the organization or anyone related to it to create this article. Also, here is a list of some professional sites with a lot of visitors (1,000+ a day) having recent articles about this specific team.
 * GotFrag.com (English) = http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/story/43606/
 * GotFrag traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/gotfrag.com
 * hltv.org (English) = http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=35&newsid=1956
 * hltv.org traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/hltv.org
 * readmore.de (German) = http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=news&id=4305
 * readmore.de traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/readmore.de
 * SK-Gaming (English) = http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/20876-JMC_back_with_Sunman_Method_Volcano
 * SK-Gaming traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/SK-gaming.com
 * Fragbite.se (Swedish) = http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=14965
 * Fragbite.se traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/Fragbite.se
 * negitaku.org (Japanese) = http://www.negitaku.org/news/10036/
 * negitaku.org traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/negitaku.org
 * cadred.org (English) = http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/47194/
 * cadred.org traffic stats = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/cadred.org
 * Also, there are at least thirty other sites also having similar articles. Additionally, other teams of the same significance's Wikipedia articles can be found here: Fnatic (Swedish team) Ninjas in pyjamas (Swedish defunct team) Alternate aTTaX (German team) Mousesports (German team) Meet Your Makers (Danish/Polish team) SK Gaming (Swedish team) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MEgaSham (talk • contribs) 15:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yeah, no. StonerDude420 (talk) 18:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to an appropriate list article (can't see one, we need something like List of electronics sports teams). The sources provided by MEgaSham are fine for verifiability, but I don't think are significant enough for notability, plus they read rather like press releases ("JMC announce that..." etc) Marasmusine (talk) 19:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This "clan" or "team" isn't some group of five kids playing a game for fun. It's a group of adults playing a game professionally, traveling the world playing different tournaments, some televised, with a large coverage- and fanbase to it. More importantly, the fan- and playerbase is not just large but is also rapidly growing. I see no need to delete this article. You who suggest deletion for this article obviously fail to understand the scale of this game as an established electronic sport (That has been played professionally since 2001).MEgaSham (User talk:MEgaSham) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC).
 * Comment, this article from the Connecticut Post is seemingly about Alex Conroy Jr. (their manager). Can someone with access check if it contains any "significant coverage" (quoting WP:N) about the team as well, establishing notability? -- aktsu (t / c) 20:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The references seem to be widespread and adequate for inclusion. --Theblog (talk) 06:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 21:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - JMC has (at least, see comment above) received significant coverage by multiple reliable gaming websites such as Gotfrag. Article needs cleanup, but that's not what AFD is for. -- aktsu (t / c) 02:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, I'd keep this based on WP:ATHLETE for their participation in the Championship Gaming Series. Also, there are more reliable sources than is apparent from the article. - Mgm|(talk) 09:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


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