Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Asforis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Merge to S Club 8, leaving a redirect in place. Note that this is a form of Keep. DES (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Jay Asforis

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Delete.Non-notable unsourced vanity page Smerus 08:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC) 
 * Keep. Notability asserted in having been a member of a notable music group.  Admittedly, this looks like some kind of vanity, but that's no reason to delete.  Someguy1221 15:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 18:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sr13 07:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

*Keep - Clearly passes WP:MUSIC with membership of notable group - Tiswas (t) 10:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge with S Club 8 Perhaps someone can point me to the part of WP:MUSIC that says that members of notable bands are de facto notable enough for their own article. The WP:MUSIC that I'm reading says no such thing, and WP:N suggests that band members can generally be treated within the article on the band. Nor is there any suggestion that this person has himself met WP:BIO - not the band, but this individual member. Natalie 11:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's an inference, more than anything - WP:MUSICcriterion 6. states that bands are notable if a member was once in a notable band - this suggests that the notability is with the person. Otherwise, it assumes that, on leaving notable band A, the person becomes non-notable, and on joining, the new band becomes notable, inheriting the notability, as if the person carried the notability like a recessive virus (which is the only analogy that I can think of). - Tiswas (t) 11:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * While he passes the notability criteria for musicians. There's very little material not related to said band. I think it's a good idea to Redirect and merge to S Club 8. (But I think it's an even better idea to lump this nomination in with the rest of the members at Articles for deletion/Daisy Evans. - Mgm|(talk) 12:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge - On further consideration, as the constituent members have done articles are mainly repetition. Treat them much as you would WP:EPISODE - start the articles in the main band space, the hive them off as the members become notable in their own right. - Tiswas (t) 12:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


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