Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Bahd


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The result was delete. Drmies (talk) 23:55, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Jay Bahd

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Jay Bahd

Musician who does not satisfy musical notability guidelines or general notability guidelines. Created in both draft space and article space at the same time, so that this article cannot be moved into draft space.

He has received two national industry awards that appear however to be vanity awards. A review of the references shows that none of them appear to be independent and reliable.

Recommend that the article be deleted and the draft left standing for possible expansion. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - The nominator's case against unreliable sources is convincing, and I can find nothing else beyond obvious promo announcements shelled out by his agent. No opinion on the draftspace issue. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 20:25, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO. Won a Vodafone Ghana Music Award which is broadcast on GHOne TV and is basically Ghana's equivalent to the Grammys. Additionally the source analysis above is suspect, as some of those publications that supposedly lack independence have editorial boards with paid on staff independent journalists (such as Ghana Music). There is clearly a Western bias present coloring the source analysis.4meter4 (talk) 19:00, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  04:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Just going to reiterate 4meter4's point that being an "industry rag" does not make a source unreliable or non-independent. However, all of the sources currently in the article are only trivial coverage, so unless there are other sources, he still fails WP:GNG. I'm not familiar with the Vodafone Ghana Music Award, so I have no opinion on whether he satisfies WP:ANYBIO. Also, CratesHub and GhGossip both have download links, so unless the song is free to share, those websites are illegal. Mlb96 (talk) 05:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, subject hasn’t gained substantial coverage in reliable sources, fails WP:GNG. A case of WP:TOOSOON. -Xclusivzik (talk) 00:06, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 22:24, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete-keeping both namespace wont be working, it is best way to keep draft part and delete article namespace. When draft will pass for article then it will be converted into article namespace.Jyoti Roy (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. The subject won a notable award that's televised on Ghana's GHOne TV; the fifth most watched television channel in that nation. It's not a minor award, but a significant national music award. The delete votes are completely ignoring WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO criteria for artists who have won a notable award in what amounts to a western bias. Major national music awards count when weighing notability through our relevant SNGs.4meter4 (talk) 20:14, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


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