Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Cutler Rookie Cards


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The result was   delete. Courcelles (talk) 02:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Jay Cutler Rookie Cards

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No sources, but even if there were, I cannot see a reason why this is a notable topic. There are very few cards notable enough to have their own article, and Jay Cutler cards do not fall into that category. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 18:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have to agree, there is no notability here independent of Mr. Cutler.  I can't even see any reason to redirect this or merge the material.  Is there a wiki about trading cards?  I'm also concerned that there are no reliable sources attached to this, which leads me to suspect that this may be a form of advertising.  Accounting4Taste: talk 18:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would have to disagree with the fact that there are not very many notable Mr. Cutler cards. The industry has changed quite a bit and the Total value of his rookie cards would be well over $70,000. Many of his cards are valued between $200 and $1,500.  Most are also rare and numbered under 25.  This is a reference piece of an iconic player of the 2006 rookie class in the hobby.  There is a major difference between vinatge cards and modern cards.  Vintage cards only have 1 or 2 rookie cards.  Cutler himself has over 180 autographed cards from over 40 sets.  There is currently no single overview of the collection of Jay Cutler Rookie Cards.  Advertising would be to list the price of each card. This article is to talk about the differences of the sets and how Cutler is unique for the 2006 trading card season. If there is an issue with the Player than that is a personal prefence.  If this was done on Brett Favrethan there would be no issue because many people who are not familiar with the sport know who he is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardbroke (talk • contribs) 18:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not an issue over the player; I know who Jay Cutler is. But the nomination is about his cards receiving a separate article, and I just don't think this is warranted. Mickey Mantle has a couple of the most valuable cards of all time, but he doesn't have an article. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If someone else would like to take the liberty of creating a page for Micky Mantle they are more than welcome. I don't see how a page of this doesn't fall under the category of being encyclopedia worthy. This isn't about a player as much as it is about a hobby.  For car collectors the different models of Ford Msutangs would be a litgitimate page.  Their is a Wikipedia page for every single generation of that model of a mustang.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardbroke (talk • contribs) 19:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would like to ask why an article on collectible items is grounds for deletion. If you read my article their are unique aspects to collecting Cutler cards from each set from 2006 that is the detail I am trying to go into. Jay Cutler is unique from other rookies of that year, but I don't see any difference of pointing out the nuences of Cutlers rookie cards over the differences of dfiferent collectable toys such as Barbie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardbroke (talk • contribs) 19:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There are absolutely no sources in the article that even explain why the topic is notable. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * edit conflict: the following was added by Cardbroke Citation I have jsut created the page and have begun to reference it. Currently I have had to stop to make an argument to keep the page open.
 * Note that this is AFD, the article will remain "open" for a while. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I though I had to make my argument in the next few minutes.Cardbroke (talk) 19:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Cardbroke
 * Delete This would merit one sentence in Jay Cutler's article, something to the effect of "His rookie card has sold for as much as $_____".  The prospect of having individual articles about a players' trading cards is horrifying, and even by the relatively low threshold we set for sports articles, this can't step over the bar.  We have articles about sets of trading cards (e.g. 2005 Topps, 2001 Donruss), which is fine, but the only one that merits its own article is the legendary T206 Honus Wagner card.  Other than that, only one worshipful article per athlete please.  Mandsford 21:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Being that there are articles on individual playboy models I would consider this less horrifying. This type of comment just leads me to believe that Wikipedia is prejudice against valuable information on card collecting.  Articles on comic book heros seem to be OK, but something as complex as modern era card collecting seems to be too much.  Truly there is a lack of information on the card collecting industry and individual players.  This information is needed on the top Rookies being collected.  There are only a handfull of Rookies from each year that warrant this type of article. 2006 would be QBs Young, Lienart, Cutler,adn maybe Whitehurst and WR Brandong Marshall, RBs Reggie Bush, Joeseph Addai, and Maurice Jones Drew.  There is honestly too much information to be on a single article for every major rookie card.  This is why I put it up on Wiki instead of Twitter. 151.151.109.9 (talk) 22:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Cardbroke
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