Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Emmanuel-Thomas


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The result was   delete. Valley2 city ‽ 05:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Jay Emmanuel-Thomas

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Youth football player who has not played a professional first-team game, fails WP:ATHLETE. Qwghlm (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator. Qwghlm (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, recreate when he makes his professional debut -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 16:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. GiantSnowman 16:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:ATHLETE by not having played in a fully-professional league. No indication of him passing general notability. Recreate as and when he becomes notable. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - usual story; he gets a page when he makes a competitive first-team appearance. TerriersFan (talk) 17:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - as above. Parslad (talk) 18:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Hekerui (talk) 02:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The Academy games he played in were for Arsenal Academy which "are the youth team of Arsenal Football Club. They currently play in the FA Premier Academy League, the highest level of youth football in England." (see the Academy link in the article) In my book that is the highest attainable level of an amateur sport league which is notable per WP:ATHLETE (even when it miscites World Championships and Olympics as examples of amateur competitions). - Mgm|(talk) 11:42, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thing is, the Academy League isn't amateur. First, the distinction between amateur and professional in English football was abolished many years ago. Second, many of the boys playing in the Academy League will already have full professional contracts. Many won't, so it can't be counted as a fully-professional league, but many will. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply to Mgm: the World Championships and Olympics are amateur competitions, when it comes to the true amateur sports like rowing (and amateur boxing!!). Football is not an amateur sport anymore, and so does not fall under that clause.
 * And besides, even if we ignored the Olympics, etc, why would kids' football be the highest amateur level of the sport, rather than, say, the top level of amateur men's football.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment, might be useful here.  Hobit (talk) 15:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a fansite and therefore not a reliable source -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


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