Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay P. Rosenzweig


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The result was   delete. –MuZemike 04:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Jay P. Rosenzweig

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While the article does reference a few media interviews where the subject was interviewed, primarily about work place issues, Google News reveals exactly zero articles about him, and overall there is a lack of WP:RS where he is the primary focus. User:Bnorrena is clearly associated with the Rosenzweig family, as is revealed in the photo licences for images of and the now speedy deleted Renee Rosenzweig (image ), and all these articles have WP:SOAP and WP:COI issues. (The Rosenzweigs are tireless self-promoters: the interviews are all posted on their dedicated YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/mediahousebill, fwiw.) However, this nom is based principally on my contention that his interviews do not represent enough significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  — (talk) 18:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I came very close to doing a speedy delete for this.  as G11, entirely promotional without capability of being improved by normal editing, but it will be more definitively dealt with here. Note also, Rosenzweig & Company -- but I think they might be notable, and I was able to remove the promotionalism.   DGG ( talk ) 20:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence at all of notability, and apparently promotional. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:53, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. I would have deleted it as G11 myself if it hadn't been nominated for AfD first. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The WP:COI creator (which Facebook reveals to be an employee of the company) is editing it in an effort to save it, removing the external links, and generally tightening things up. Still no independent WP:RS, though the tone is better. I must admit, I feel a lot of sympathy for the guy: he's probably going to catch hell from his employer if this article gets deleted, and on that point I take no pleasure at all. I've worked for bosses like that, dammit. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not know who originally created wiki pages for Rosenzweig & Company nor Jay Rosenzweig (Canada) which I renamed to Jay P. Rosenzweig as location was irrelevant to the article. While I do know Mr Rosenzweig I am not an employee of his company. He asked me to help him fix these pages and I have been doing my best to make sure that they are accurate (fact only), up to date and meet wiki requirements. Mediahousebill is not dedicated to Mr Rosenzweig, though it does have copies of many of his aired interviews from radio and TV. This external location was chosen so that material would remain available longer and help show that while the material was done on or with Mr Rosenzweig or his staff that it was not done by them. I appreciate Shawn in Montreal's comments as they were constructive and have enabled me to become a better wiki writer and help Mr Rosenzweig improve the wiki pages for all. I have removed mention of the books he is quoted in until I have those quotes myself. Further comments and suggestions for improvement are appreciated. Bnorrena (talk) 19:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Regardless of the exact nature of your professional association with Jay P. Rosenzweig and his company, you remain in clear and ongoing conflict of interest. You want to become a "better wiki writer?" Write about something else, as all you've done since you opened your account is promote him, his wife and his company -- period. Now, that aside, I think you've successfully established the company's notability; as for this bio article, I don't forsee Jay P. Rosenzweig and his company both being independently notable anytime soon. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing in the article lends notability; I looked for additional sources myself but only briefly as I assume a PR man would make sure his own article would include such material if it exists. EEng (talk) 04:26, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as spam. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:29, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge whatever it salvageable to Rosenzweig & Company.-- Pink Bull  02:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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